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[Football] Sheffield Wednesday players considering walking out.









dadams2k11

ID10T Error
Jun 24, 2011
5,023
Brighton
Not surprised. Chansiri gained a masters from the Risdale Business School.

On at least one occasion, going to SWFC season ticket holders (all 90,000 of them) asking for several seasons money in advance, the consideration for doing so was doubtful.
https://www.swfc.co.uk/news/2017/august/owls-launch-club-1867-membership/

Love this bit.

"But get this - every Member of Club 1867 will receive as part of the package a free three-year Season Ticket, an incentive that comes to life as soon as Wednesday achieve promotion to the Premier League."
 


nwgull

Well-known member
Jul 25, 2003
14,532
Manchester
Chansiri may not have had the same malevolent intentions as Archer, but he’s ****ed them over nonetheless due to dangerous combo of inherited wealth, but being completely clueless about football and business. They’re in serious danger of going out of existence due to this wanker and some of us are revelling in it coz we had a bit of a short-term rivalry going. Short-term memories.
 


bhafc99

Well-known member
Oct 14, 2003
7,448
Dubai




el punal

Well-known member
Aug 29, 2012
12,537
The dull part of the south coast
As some on here have suggested that both Sheffield clubs amalgamate how about, based on being the Steel City, calling themselves Sheffield Welded - a sort of combination of both Wednesday and United names?

Oh sod it, I’ll just get my knife and fork! :facepalm:
 


Silverhatch

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Feb 23, 2009
4,674
Preston Park
No or little revenue plus huge costs for an underperforming organisation. Football is going to reset - the pandemic and ESL has seen to that. Let’s see the players give notice and leave. They’ve just been relegated and the football landscape is on no position to throw them a lifeline.
 


Tokyohands

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Jan 5, 2017
940
Tokyo
Shirley nobody here really wants to see such a historical club like Wednesday go out of business .......?

do they........? :tumble:
 






Hugo Rune

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NSC Patron
Feb 23, 2012
23,649
Brighton
Shirley nobody here really wants to see such a historical club like Wednesday go out of business .......?

do they........? :tumble:

No. That would be truly awful.

But a sustained decade or so in League One or Two should finally convince their supporters that they are not ‘Massive’, they’ve never been ‘Massive’ and never will be ‘Massive’.

Sheff Utd will be the dominant side in that city for a generation or two, it’s a great levelling up opportunity for them.
 






Icy Gull

Back on the rollercoaster
Jul 5, 2003
72,015
No. That would be truly awful.

But a sustained decade or so in League One or Two should finally convince their supporters that they are not ‘Massive’, they’ve never been ‘Massive’ and never will be ‘Massive’.

Sheff Utd will be the dominant side in that city for a generation or two, it’s a great levelling up opportunity for them.

45 mins from going out of the league hasn’t convinced quite a few Albion fans that we shouldn’t be expecting, even demanding, better in the PL though has it?

Wednesday fans will always consider themselves at least pretty MASSIVE.
 


Green Cross Code Man

Wunt be druv
Mar 30, 2006
20,714
Eastbourne
Chansiri may not have had the same malevolent intentions as Archer, but he’s ****ed them over nonetheless due to dangerous combo of inherited wealth, but being completely clueless about football and business. They’re in serious danger of going out of existence due to this wanker and some of us are revelling in it coz we had a bit of a short-term rivalry going. Short-term memories.

There is a balance needed here. I certainly don't want them out of business but there are similarities with Bolton and Pompey who kept cheating or paying way over the odds with money that they didn't have. The difference here is Weds didn't get the short term benefit that either of those clubs enjoyed. Their fans were happy enough with all the spending and promises, and although many times people pointed out that their owner was a clueless chancer, according to the brutish fans that visited the Amex for the second leg of the play-off, the future belonged to them.

So I would like them to suffer, not go out of existence, but play in the bottom tier of the league or top tier of the non league structure. Their club cheated clubs like ours from promotion.
 






bhanutz

Well-known member
Aug 23, 2005
5,999
Chansiri may not have had the same malevolent intentions as Archer, but he’s ****ed them over nonetheless due to dangerous combo of inherited wealth, but being completely clueless about football and business. They’re in serious danger of going out of existence due to this wanker and some of us are revelling in it coz we had a bit of a short-term rivalry going. Short-term memories.

Its wonderful....
 


Weststander

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Aug 25, 2011
69,185
Withdean area
Love this bit.

"But get this - every Member of Club 1867 will receive as part of the package a free three-year Season Ticket, an incentive that comes to life as soon as Wednesday achieve promotion to the Premier League."

The lack of an “if” :smile:.

Presumably passed down the generations, until .....

 


nwgull

Well-known member
Jul 25, 2003
14,532
Manchester
There is a balance needed here. I certainly don't want them out of business but there are similarities with Bolton and Pompey who kept cheating or paying way over the odds with money that they didn't have. The difference here is Weds didn't get the short term benefit that either of those clubs enjoyed. Their fans were happy enough with all the spending and promises, and although many times people pointed out that their owner was a clueless chancer, according to the brutish fans that visited the Amex for the second leg of the play-off, the future belonged to them.

So I would like them to suffer, not go out of existence, but play in the bottom tier of the league or top tier of the non league structure. Their club cheated clubs like ours from promotion.

They're being relegated to the 3rd tier for the 2nd time in 10 years and are unlikely to bounce back immediately. They haven't exactly had it great, have they? I don't think you'd see any group of fans, us lot included, complaining if the club owner was pouring money into the club to fund big transfers and wages. In fact what you do see almost every transfer window are complaints that we're not offering enough money to attract the best players - and I'm sure that this summer will be no different. They didn't cheat us from promotion either. Losing out to Midds and then that play-off semi was probably the best thing to happen to us in the long term as it meant we went up with a much stronger squad the following year.

I suppose fans united was a long time ago now, but I still remember it well with shirts on display from every club. Seeing Brighton fans revel in the demise of one of those clubs because the owner, who has no prior links with the club or even English football, is a stubborn muppet is very uncomfortable for me.
 


bhanutz

Well-known member
Aug 23, 2005
5,999
They're being relegated to the 3rd tier for the 2nd time in 10 years and are unlikely to bounce back immediately. They haven't exactly had it great, have they? I don't think you'd see any group of fans, us lot included, complaining if the club owner was pouring money into the club to fund big transfers and wages. In fact what you do see almost every transfer window are complaints that we're not offering enough money to attract the best players - and I'm sure that this summer will be no different. They didn't cheat us from promotion either. Losing out to Midds and then that play-off semi was probably the best thing to happen to us in the long term as it meant we went up with a much stronger squad the following year.

I suppose fans united was a long time ago now, but I still remember it well with shirts on display from every club. Seeing Brighton fans revel in the demise of one of those clubs because the owner, who has no prior links with the club or even English football, is a stubborn muppet is very uncomfortable for me.

You got a soft spot for them? I don't want them to go out of business... but I do want to see them take their medicine and I for one will revel in that for a while!
 




Weststander

Well-known member
Aug 25, 2011
69,185
Withdean area
You got a soft spot for them? I don't want them to go out of business... but I do want to see them take their medicine and I for one will revel in that for a while!

Plus they don’t live in a single club bubble.

Every financially cheating club deprives or potentially deprives an honest club (and all their supporters) a place in a division.
 


Green Cross Code Man

Wunt be druv
Mar 30, 2006
20,714
Eastbourne
They're being relegated to the 3rd tier for the 2nd time in 10 years and are unlikely to bounce back immediately. They haven't exactly had it great, have they? I don't think you'd see any group of fans, us lot included, complaining if the club owner was pouring money into the club to fund big transfers and wages. In fact what you do see almost every transfer window are complaints that we're not offering enough money to attract the best players - and I'm sure that this summer will be no different. They didn't cheat us from promotion either. Losing out to Midds and then that play-off semi was probably the best thing to happen to us in the long term as it meant we went up with a much stronger squad the following year.

I suppose fans united was a long time ago now, but I still remember it well with shirts on display from every club. Seeing Brighton fans revel in the demise of one of those clubs because the owner, who has no prior links with the club or even English football, is a stubborn muppet is very uncomfortable for me.

I sympathise with much of what you say. I did not 'revel' in their demise but I suppose you are aiming that elsewhere. Personally, I have found their fans very dislikeable over the years and would not be unhappy if they ended up spending the rest of their existence in the lower leagues.

I agree all clubs have unrealistic fans. I was never happier (except for the Wardy years) than when we had Zamora in the bottom league or Murray in the next league up. Wednesday may emerge into a similar position given time.
 


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