Shane Warne's 50 Greatest Cricketers...

[Seagull over NZ]

true, but he has not been on the scene that long, and I am not convinced his current blip in form is that! I have a horrible feeling people have worked him out

What a load of tosh. Its not a case of working Pieterson out. The only thing that really gets KP out (other than top notch deliveries that would get anyone out) is KP himself. I get the feeling that to keep KP's standards up he will always need challenges, which with the amount of cricket they play, is hard to do. I expect KP to come back strongly.

 

[Dave the OAP]

What a load of tosh. Its not a case of working Pieterson out. The only thing that really gets KP out (other than top notch deliveries that would get anyone out) is KP himself. I get the feeling that to keep KP's standards up he will always need challenges, which with the amount of cricket they play, is hard to do. I expect KP to come back strongly.

of course the Indians have worked him out. He plays very much bottom hand, therefore the ball going across him is always going to have him in problems ( having bowled against people for 30 odd years you get to recognise traits in people and how best to bowl at them) he is also an aggressive driver,(even from the off) therefore as teams have found out, you give him balls to drive at, drop mid on and off back and put in a point ...again, being bottom hand, he hits it in the air.

Its not an uncommon trait in modern cricket. It started with the Sri lankans and the Aussies have mastered it, ie going at 4 an over even in Test match Cricket.

But that is just my opionion, doubtless you have some old tosh you hold as an opinion too

 

[sten_super]

Having a weakness is not the same thing as 'working him out' though, is it? Tendulkar has looked vulnerable to the short ball in the one dayers (excusing yesterdays effort), but that doesn't mean that they've worked him out.

The question is can he adapt to the challenge and continue to score runs? And I'd wager the answer is yes. When people came in they said he was an overly leg side player, and that he'd get found out in test match cricket. He adapted his game, relied less on leg side play (although it is still dominant in his game) and prospered accordingly.

 

[Barnet Seagull]

No Mushy?

 

[Rusthall Seagull]

of course the Indians have worked him out. He plays very much bottom hand, therefore the ball going across him is always going to have him in problems ( having bowled against people for 30 odd years you get to recognise traits in people and how best to bowl at them) he is also an aggressive driver,(even from the off) therefore as teams have found out, you give him balls to drive at, drop mid on and off back and put in a point ...again, being bottom hand, he hits it in the air.

Its not an uncommon trait in modern cricket. It started with the Sri lankans and the Aussies have mastered it, ie going at 4 an over even in Test match Cricket.

But that is just my opionion, doubtless you have some old tosh you hold as an opinion too

or maybe he is just having a lean spell? I don't think anyone can question his record to date?

 

[Seagull over NZ]

Dave, I always think top class batsmen will struggle against quality left armers like Zaheer Khan. Its still relatively rare to come up against them and as such maybe KP has to adjust his game.

I don't think he particularly drives in the air. Some of the cover drives and square drives should go in the air the way he plays but he has such good hand/eye coordination and reach that they don't go in the air.

I still maintain that they haven't worked him out. But I grant you that now he has been around for a couple of years people have seen areas where he is less strong. I think initially teams were obsessed about him being a leg side player so bowled wid eof off stump but he has adapted to that.

Personally I think his biggest weakness is his ego and his need to score runs quick. If you can tie him up early then he is likely to make a mistake. so as with a lot of great players, their strength (his aggressive approach) is often their downfall.

 

[Storer68]

Possibly, but Ganguly, Dravid and Tendulkar are all coming to the end of their careers, where as Pietersen is player still in theory improving.

and who is the 4th.......

VVS Laxman

 

[Buzzer]

Where's Sunil Gavaskar? Surely he'd grace a top 50 and he was playing when Warney started.

edit - and what has Shoaib Ahktar ever really done? Silly list.

 

[Lady Whistledown]

The thing with Pietersen, regardless of where you think he is, ability wise, he's one of Warne's best mates, therefore was bound to make an appearance.

Frankly I was surprised not to see John Crawley, Dmitri Mascarenhas and Nic Pothas in there...

 

[e77]

Why has he picked a Sitar player at number 42?

 

[Dave the OAP]

Dave, I always think top class batsmen will struggle against quality left armers like Zaheer Khan. Its still relatively rare to come up against them and as such maybe KP has to adjust his game.

I don't think he particularly drives in the air. Some of the cover drives and square drives should go in the air the way he plays but he has such good hand/eye coordination and reach that they don't go in the air.

I still maintain that they haven't worked him out. But I grant you that now he has been around for a couple of years people have seen areas where he is less strong. I think initially teams were obsessed about him being a leg side player so bowled wid eof off stump but he has adapted to that.

Personally I think his biggest weakness is his ego and his need to score runs quick. If you can tie him up early then he is likely to make a mistake. so as with a lot of great players, their strength (his aggressive approach) is often their downfall.

Absolute Tosh!!!

Only joking....I see your point.

Of course the arrogance/ego could come from the fact that he is a South African

 

[Vatican Citys No.2 Keeper]

No Mushy?

:mushy: My Thoughts precisley

The Dumb German-Aussie , how could he leave out such a legend