Shane Duffy - it's a DONE DEAL!

[BensGrandad]

But that's a completely different point. Scouts are paid to make decisions. That is their job. They make decisions on players.

Some on here are notorious for criticising players. You only have to look at the Stockdale thread, which funnily enough has not resurfaced today as he saved us yesterday. I'm not saying don't criticise players but I am saying give them a chance rather than having a go after two games. There was even one person on this thread saying Duffy would be fifth choice centre back and claiming he wasn't criticising him. That is not a logical reaction after two games.

Equally, some on here would have sacked Hughton after half a season despite him completing the main aim of keeping us up.

That is what makes this site such good reading and so poular the diverse opinions.

 

[Cowfold Seagull]

Like you Finchley I also think some players take time and still believe Manu will come good

I actually quite like Manu, but fear he is at the wrong club. He would be far more effective paying in a 4-3-3 as opposed to Hughton's favoured 4-4-2. Not a Hughton type player at all and doesn't take to playing in such a rigid system.

The same could be said for Mackail-Smith under Poyet, or even LuaLua now.

 

[Finchley Seagull]

That is what makes this site such good reading and so poular the diverse opinions.

I'm not arguing about diverse views. I'm saying that two games is too early to judge players whether you think they are really good or really bad.

 

[Finchley Seagull]

I actually quite like Manu, but fear he is at the wrong club. He would be far more effective paying in a 4-3-3 as opposed to Hughton's favoured 4-4-2. Not a Hughton type player at all and doesn't take to playing in such a rigid system.

The same could be said for Mackail-Smith under Poyet, or even LuaLua now.

Agreed. I think the form of Baldock has been a blow for Manu's chances. Though, even if he got a run in the side, I'm not sure if he's right for English football. If we get another striker, I think we'll sell him in January.

It is amazing, considering how many players we've signed since Hughton joined, that Manu is probably the only real failure (ignoring the loans of the first half season).

 

[HastingsSeagull]

To head back a day or so, 4 GREAT CBs would be crazy. I don't class the Hun as Great on what I've seen of him. A 4th choice can be solid and decent (which he likely is) but you need 3 elite ones to push for promotion. A 4th would just be money taken away from other areas of the first team.

I think we did a great job finding a 3rd Elite one. It was a lot of money compared to spotting a Goldson but has shown so far to be solid business. They clearly thought they were confident spending that money on a proven International rather than taking an educated and calculated guess on a young lower league player.

 

[Cowfold Seagull]

Agreed. I think the form of Baldock has been a blow for Manu's chances. Though, even if he got a run in the side, I'm not sure if he's right for English football. If we get another striker, I think we'll sell him in January.

It is amazing, considering how many players we've signed since Hughton joined, that Manu is probably the only real failure (ignoring the loans of the first half season).

Yes, Baldock is probably the polar opposite to Manu, has the right work ethic for Hughton, and, (perhaps just as importantly), does exactly what he is told!

Manu needs to be given a much freer reign to express himself, before we will ever get the best out of him, and that won't happen here alas. I wouldn't say he was a failure as a footballer, but a failure for us, yes probably.

 

[Finchley Seagull]

Yes, Baldock is probably the polar opposite to Manu, has the right work ethic for Hughton, and, (perhaps just as importantly), does exactly what he is told!

Manu needs to be given a much freer reign to express himself, before we will ever get the best out of him, and that won't happen here alas. I wouldn't say he was a failure as a footballer, but a failure for us, yes probably.

Yes I meant as a signing for us rather than as a footballer. Hard to call a player a failure if they score against Roma (and others) in the Europa League.

Agree he doesn't really suit Hughton's system. Not sure what his best position is but I agree it might be part of a 4-3-3.

 

[Ⓩ-Ⓐ-Ⓜ-Ⓞ-Ⓡ-Ⓐ]

Have you all added an m after the figure by mistake? There is no way he is worth anything like a million pound especially if Uwe is nearly back I would say about £750k top whack. Tommy Elphick went to Villa for alleged £3m and he is not half the player Tommy is about the same standard as his brother Gary.

 

[Barham's tash]

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Quality flame bouncing


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[Driver8]

Is that the 4th bid of 4 times his worth we are supposed to have put in TB didnt make his money with such stupid bids for anything. be it players property on poker chips. File it in the bin as rubbish I would suggest along with him.

Never Wrong.

 

[big nuts]

The first 7 pages of this are Ben’s Grandad comedy gold. Text book from the veteran poster!

 

[SIMMO SAYS]

Never Wrong.

BG is currently looking in The Big Book of Excuses (which he wrote) for an oddball reply

 

[Stat Brother]

The first 7 pages of this are Ben’s Grandad comedy gold. Text book from the veteran poster!

Wow.

 

[Bill Cassidy's tie up]

Let's all pick on BG again sad f.....s.


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[The Tactician]

Let's all pick on BG again sad f.....s.


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To be fair the sheer AMOUNT of rubbish he posts (60,000!!! ) as well as his stubborn arrogance to never admit when he’s obviously wrong does warrant some degree of criticism.

 

[moggy]

Let's all pick on BG again sad f.....s.


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Absolutely agree and I find the amount of people that seem hell bent on critising him pretty poor.
His post totals seem to annoy many users.
So what !
Let him post and say what he wants!
Until we’re a dictatorship, he can carry on as long as he wants for me.
It’s all about free speech. Some people on here should remember that and everyone’s opinion counts to form your own judgement.

 

[Bill Cassidy's tie up]

Bounced after 20 months, pathetic like the Sun bringing up what Duffy said on twitter 6 years ago


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[Green Cross Code Man]

Absolutely agree and I find the amount of people that seem hell bent on critising him pretty poor.
His post totals seem to annoy many users.
So what !
Let him post and say what he wants!
Until we’re a dictatorship, he can carry on as long as he wants for me.
It’s all about free speech. Some people on here should remember that and everyone’s opinion counts to form your own judgement.

There are so many threads that once his name starts appearing, get totally derailed as he often makes such 'interesting' posts, that people try to reason with him and as has been said, he will never back down. When I see a thread I like I often don't bother opening it once his name keeps appearing as last poster. He spams the board.

 

[Weststander]

Bounced after 20 months, pathetic like the Sun bringing up what Duffy said on twitter 6 years ago


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Agreed, there's an element of bullying involved here, although some only mean it light heartedly.

But some old posts (not necessarily from @BG) are fair game to be bounced, for example where some condemned Maty Ryan as shite after a couple of matches. As long as things don't get personal.

 

[moggy]

Agreed, there's an element of bullying involved here, although some only mean it light heartedly.

But some old posts (not necessarily from @BG) are fair game to be bounced, for example where some condemned Maty Ryan as shite after a couple of matches. As long as things don't get personal.

Agreed.
But things do get personal. That has to stop!