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BBassic

I changed this.
Jul 28, 2011
13,056
What do mean do people still think this way? It's the female interviewees that choose to wear the low cut tops, in full knowledge that they're being interviewed by a man. Why else would they do it other than to differentiate themselves from the male candidates

And I'm not old.

Irrelevant. They choose to wear them and they should be able to expect not to be objectified because of it.
 




Nibble

New member
Jan 3, 2007
19,238
I have; I was just using this as an example showing that, in my experience, women are more than happy to use their attractiveness and femininity to try and gain a professional advantage.

I don't know what sort of messages your colleague gets, but I accept that their is a line that is no doubt crossed by certain men (and women) on occasions. However, this one that is being reported by the bbc is harmless and complimentary - it's not news worthy.

Absolutely no different to a man putting a good suit and some aftershave on, having a shave and a haircut. She's hardly turned up in a pair of hot pants and a bra has she!!
 


brightn'ove

cringe
Apr 12, 2011
9,169
London
I have; I was just using this as an example showing that, in my experience, women are more than happy to use their attractiveness and femininity to try and gain a professional advantage.

I don't know what sort of messages your colleague gets, but I accept that their is a line that is no doubt crossed by certain men (and women) on occasions. However, this one that is being reported by the bbc is harmless and complimentary - it's not news worthy.

It may only be the tip of the iceburg, but it's still unwarranted and massively unprofessional.

With the shit that women have to put up with on the street and online i'm surprised nothing like this has come up before. I assume the only reason it has is because it is two very well connected lawyers we are talking about.
 




GOM

living vicariously
Aug 8, 2005
3,259
Leeds - but not the dirty bit
She is not on Linkedin for compliments about her appearance. LinkedIn is a site for professional people to help their careers and businesses.

"Charlotte, delighted to connect, I appreciate this is horrendously politically incorrect but that is a stunning picture !!!
You definitely win the prize for the Best LinkedIn picture I have ever seen.

Always interest to understand peoples skills and how we might work together."


Is creepy and I bet he says that to all the girls.

I notice that he comments on the stunning picture (professionally taken), not her.

Perhaps I should be a lawyer.
 




METALMICKY

Well-known member
Jan 30, 2004
6,826
He was bang out of order. People should be able to post a picture of themselves on a professional careers site and not have whiskey soaked old leaches commenting on them on that manner.

Women should always be treated as if they are equal.



Indeed! Now run along and make us a cuppa treacle!
 


dazzer6666

Well-known member
NSC Patron
Mar 27, 2013
55,553
Burgess Hill
This all day long. I'm genuinely disturbed by some attitudes on here. If it's a harmless compliment is like to see how some on here would react if their wife or daughter received that exact message in that context. It's totally unacceptable.

Agreed. He appears to have been trying it on - and bloody knew he was 'I appreciate this is horrendously politically incorrect......'. Reckon he was hoping for a response of 'ooh you cheekie chappy, let's me for a coffee', but she called him out as a letch. His comments trying to claim a 'misinterpretation' are just desperate (and indefensible - which is odd given he is a lawyer). I bet this isn't the first time he's done it either.

It's a professional networking site, not a dating site FFS.
 


nwgull

Well-known member
Jul 25, 2003
14,533
Manchester
You REALLY wouldn't understand the answer.

Try me. I'm fascinated to hear how a woman enhancing the appearance and showing off of secondary sexual characteristics isn't meant to either attract a man or affect his judgement.
 




Nibble

New member
Jan 3, 2007
19,238
If a woman chooses to use her attractiveness to gain an advantage that does not give someone carte Blanche to say whatever they like about it.
 


Pavilionaire

Well-known member
Jul 7, 2003
31,265
My problem with her is this: when interviewed on 5Live she said that AFTER having received his message she then looked at his profile and suddenly realised he was a senior legal figure in a big firm.

So why the hell was she seeking to use LinkedIn to connect with him without actually being aware of his position?

Having made contact he made an error of judgement in his reply, but she is being naïve if she doesn't realise that most men in their late 50s will be flattered to receive a connection request from an attractive woman in their 20s.

I believe she then over-reacted, not by her reply to him (which is reasonable, albeit harsh) but by going public with it on Twitter. You have to feel particularly sorry for the man's family and business colleagues at this time.

As for her career prospects, what employer would want to hire this woman? She sounds like a complete nutcase with poor judgement
 


symyjym

Banned
Nov 2, 2009
13,138
Brighton / Hove actually
What do mean do people still think this way? It's the female interviewees that choose to wear the low cut tops, in full knowledge that they're being interviewed by a man. Why else would they do it other than to differentiate themselves from the male candidates

And I'm not old.

She wasn't wearing a low cut top and trying to look sexy, it was a mug shot.

He clearly said; I appreciate this is horrendously politically incorrect but .............................................

As much as anything he is insulting his wife, because along with his "compliment" it was also wrapped around a proposal.
 




The Antikythera Mechanism

The oldest known computer
NSC Patron
Aug 7, 2003
8,087
My problem with this is that, this woman, has chosen to take the moral high ground but, by the nature of her profession, being a Barrister, they have no morals, as they will happily defend someone they know to be guilty or implicate someone they know to be innocent. This just smacks of self publicity. and self satisfied insincerity.
 


The Wizard

Well-known member
Jul 2, 2009
18,399
What a pathetic world we live in, calling someone's picture stunning creates this furore meanwhile we have people dying all over the world because they don't even have clean water to drink, real first world problem is this one. Hideous attention seeking creature this woman is.

Literally laughing at some of the posts on here, insulting his wife by calling another woman stunning. :lolol: Guess every married man on the planet has essentially done the same then in finding any other woman attractive.
 


Nibble

New member
Jan 3, 2007
19,238
Try me. I'm fascinated to hear how a woman enhancing the appearance and showing off of secondary sexual characteristics isn't meant to either attract a man or affect his judgement.

I've addressed this point several times on this thread. The answer is in another post .

Say she is doing this. She certainly isnt in the picture in question. But say a woman is using her attractivenes to gain an advantage. That's a hell of an ignorant assumption but we'll go there for arguments same.
What does that give you the right to do or say?
If the same woman had walked into a professional business meeting is it acceptable for a male she's never met to take her to one side and whisper in her ear "I know this is politically incorrect but you look stunning, the best looking woman I've ever seen in this interview room". Because that is EXACTLY what this guy did online.
 




Bombadier Botty

Complete Twaddle
Jun 2, 2008
3,258
He was bang out of order. People should be able to post a picture of themselves on a professional careers site and not have whiskey soaked old leaches commenting on them on that manner.

Women should always be treated as if they are equal.

Legendary post Dribble.
 


symyjym

Banned
Nov 2, 2009
13,138
Brighton / Hove actually
I notice that he comments on the stunning picture (professionally taken), not her.

Perhaps I should be a lawyer.

It's not a stunning (professionally taken) picture. You can clearly see that it's a badly cut out head that has been pasted on a non complimentary blue background.

I spent more time and effort on my NSC avatar.
 


Billy the Fish

Technocrat
Oct 18, 2005
17,594
Haywards Heath
However, this one that is being reported by the bbc is harmless and complimentary - it's not news worthy.

I think you need to look at the bigger picture here. On the face of it, it might look like a pretty innocuous and harmless comment, but the language used isn't the problem.

It's the underlying assumption that her value is only associated with her appearance and not her skills and experience. That assumption about women is deeply ingrained in the psyche of both men and women and it happens at every level of society - remember the despicable comments John Inverdale made about Marion Bartoli after she'd just won Wimbledon? It's basically that mindset, in varying levels of serverity.

Until it's gone, women will never be truly equal. That is very harmful to women and society as a whole.
 


Bombadier Botty

Complete Twaddle
Jun 2, 2008
3,258
My problem with this is that, this woman, has chosen to take the moral high ground but, by the nature of her profession, being a Barrister, they have no morals, as they will happily defend someone they know to be guilty or implicate someone they know to be innocent. This just smacks of self publicity. and self satisfied insincerity.

Sage words
 






nwgull

Well-known member
Jul 25, 2003
14,533
Manchester
I'm done on this thread; lunch is over and work needs doing. Final word I'll have is to agree with others that the woman in the story is an attention seeker with no real world problems.
 


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