Seriously, how THICK are West Ham and Millwall fans?

[Arthur]

Hmmm. Lets see.
A home game against Ipswich, completely meaningless end-of-season game for the opposition, in front of a handful of harmless travelling fans with no reputation, who we have no rivalry whatsoever with.

vs

A home game against Millwall in a knockout competition, a couple of thousand rival fans containing a good few neanderthals there spoiling for a fight, long and bitter hatred between both sets of supporters, Category C match for the police, trouble kicking off before and during the game...

Now which of these two matches would YOU think was a bit safer if kids ran onto the pitch.
Ummmm...answers on a postcard to Dear Points Of View.

But people were on the pitch celebrating a goal end of. Millwall fans were sewn up at the other end of the ground. Really don't see what the issue is with some fella having his daughter on the pitch (other than the fact he shouldn't be there in the first place).

 

[Cheeky Monkey]

no it wasnt - the west ham on the pitch were about celebrating goals. plenty here seem not to get that amidst all the football factory stuff both sides seriously want to beat each other on the pitch too. Very few of the west ham fans offered any millwall out from the pitch, they were mostly celebrating goals. pretty much no one on the pitch was a 'lad', just pissed up shirts pleased about goals.

woods and trees.

Oh come on! Absolutely ridiculous, the whole thing was about provocation first and celebrating goals was a distant second.

 

[TWOCHOICEStom]

hmm... YES mindless thuggery

 

[User removed 4]

Oh FFS. Can you comment on ANYTHING without it descending into your usual tirade against anything you perceive as anti-British?

This thread is about RACISM, not NATIONALISM for fucks sake!

I might have guessed mr castigate the army at any f***ing opportunity would leap to his defence, gruntage , spineless cock that he is has made very public pronouncements against our boys in afghanistan , specifically that he doesn't give a f*** when they get killed or wounded, I reserve the right to slag him whenever and wherever I feel like it , if you don't like it tough shit , go and f*** yourself , as is your right , earned by the blood of the same sort of people who are now shedding it in afghanistan , you carry on making sneering, snobbish references to the our service people safe in the knowledge that you won't have to put your pampered , overweight ,liberal handwringing body on the line because they do it for you. That is all.

 

[Easy 10]

But people were on the pitch celebrating a goal end of. Millwall fans were sewn up at the other end of the ground. Really don't see what the issue is with some fella having his daughter on the pitch (other than the fact he shouldn't be there in the first place).

The atmosphere there throughout the game was (as you'd expect), poisonous. Running onto the pitch to celebrate a late equaliser in that atmosphere, against a mob who consider you to be their biggest rivals, is stupid at best, and downright deliberately provocative at worst. Taking a kid on with you takes it on to a whole new level of bone-headedness.

Any father who in his own mind felt it was quite safe to take his child onto the pitch in that situation, given the context of that game and what was going on, has completely taken leave of his senses in my opinion.

 

[The Spanish]

That SSN panel yesterday was like something from a dumbed down version of The Muppet Show - Cottee, Paul Merson, Charlie Nicholas and the other ex-footballer whose name escapes me. Talk about a complete bunch of inarticulate thickos who would add absolutely nothing of any interest to any discussion. Someone at SKY earns a fortune selecting these 'pundits' It absolutely beggars belief.

lets be honest though its a sports programme. They seem dull but the programmes dull, more to the point. I cannot imagine Merson, Cottee and Charlie Nicholas are dull blokes in real life, far from it.

Mind you some on here would love it if the panel was in fact Shami Chakrabati Alain de Botton or Vince Cable (and perhaps David Mitchell for some cynically witty but still insightful comment).

 

[Perry Milkins]

So its Easy v Arthur in one corner and bushy v Simmo in the other. All heavyweights of debate.

Here goes round 2!

 

[The Spanish]

Oh come on! Absolutely ridiculous, the whole thing was about provocation first and celebrating goals was a distant second.

sorry mate I like your posts a lot but you are way off on this one.

 

[Cheeky Monkey]

hmm... YES mindless thuggery

Daylight Yobbery...and mindless too!! :dasreich:

 

[User removed 4]

Don't you believe in free speech then Bushy?

Not when I consider it tantamount to treason,no.

 

[Perry Milkins]

Simmo to the Tower!

 

[Easy 10]

hmm... YES mindless thuggery

MC Hammer has let himself go a bit hasn't he. Must have that Jacko "pigment skin disease" thing.

 

[Cheeky Monkey]

lets be honest though its a sports programme. They seem dull but the programmes dull, more to the point. I cannot imagine Merson, Cottee and Charlie Nicholas are dull blokes in real life, far from it.

Mind you some on here would love it if the panel was in fact Shami Chakrabati Alain de Botton or Vince Cable (and perhaps David Mitchell for some cynically witty but still insightful comment).

Agreed that SSN is dull - you're stretching something out to fill airtime and so covering the same old ground over and over again, so surely you wouldn't pick people who are just going to grunt the same old cliches ad finitum - Paul Merson repeated himself three times in one sentence ffs, while Nicholas just went on about the Old Firm. Over on BBC1 you had Leroy Rosenior, who I've never seen as a pundit before, and he was, in one man, everything the entire SSN panel put together were not - insightful, knowledgeable, intelligent and articulate.

 

[User removed 4]

So its Easy v Arthur in one corner and bushy v Simmo in the other. All heavyweights of debate.

Here goes round 2!

just taking the kids swimming but will be back in a little while .

 

[Safeway]

Why? They were celebrating a goal. Plenty of kids on the pitch after the Stockport game last season I seem to recall.

Two VERY different atmospheres.

 

[Arthur]

hmm... YES mindless thuggery

f*** me, if that is mindless thuggery then you must shit yourself at the thought of walking down West Street on a Friday night in case anyone flicks the V sign at you!!

So its Easy v Arthur in one corner and bushy v Simmo in the other. All heavyweights of debate.

Here goes round 2!

Nah, I'm throwing in the towel buddy. Can't be bothered any more and I've got work to do.

I know what I saw with my own eyes, if people are stupid enough to believe what they want to in the press then that is their look out.

Still, such a shame we won't get the world cup now!! Bring back the birch and send them all on national service I say!!

 

[Taybha]

that mug has got one mother of a hernia

 

[Cheeky Monkey]

sorry mate I like your posts a lot but you are way off on this one.

Fair do's TS, I accept what you're saying but find it hard to believe that a large percentage of the WH fans saw their actions as purely 'goal celebrations'

 

[The Spanish]

will this be a quiz question in years to come?


which is the only non international football team to have both won and lost a world cup?

 

[Simster]

I might have guessed mr castigate the army at any f***ing opportunity would leap to his defence, gruntage , spineless cock that he is has made very public pronouncements against our boys in afghanistan , specifically that he doesn't give a f*** when they get killed or wounded, I reserve the right to slag him whenever and wherever I feel like it , if you don't like it tough shit , go and f*** yourself , as is your right , earned by the blood of the same sort of people who are now shedding it in afghanistan , you carry on making sneering, snobbish references to the our service people safe in the knowledge that you won't have to put your pampered , overweight ,liberal handwringing body on the line because they do it for you. That is all.

Mr "Castigate the army at every opportunity". Erm, right, yeah that's me. lol. Do a search on my posts for the word "army" and I reckon you'd find more "pro" army posts than "anti".

The rest of your post is just noise really, because it's utterly irrelevant. If you recall, I'm pointing at your posts are nearly ALL about the same thing - yet more boorish, feeble crusade against anyone who complains about the British establishment.