Serious disturbance in Enfield right now

[Pretty pink fairy]

I know where you're going with it, but it is only a photo. That's the only point I'm making.

He could be the biggest juvenile crimewave in wherever it is, but I don't know that from a single image any more than you do.

it's all hypothetical isn't it.

 

[Lady Whistledown]

ISN'T THIS ALL A BIT PREDICTABLE, Black ghetos on the boil again ?

Tottenham is between 55% and 60% white according to the last census. Just FYI, like. That includes those who class themselves as white British, white Irish and white "other" in the returns, I seem to recall about 9% were of white European (ie non British/Irish backgrounds).

 

[Paxton Dazo]

Is that where you and Eddy got that box of chicken and chips for about £1.50? Joe still wants me to find out if Tennessee Chicken is open, trouble is he can't remember where the f*** it was. Probably is ruined as the trouble started down that end and moved up. Savage the amount of businesses that will have been ruined by this.

Nah, 2 breast & chips - £3.30. Price hasn't changed in about 10 years.
The blacks love it, so there's no way it'll get done.
Not sure about Tennesse Chicken, but there used to be a pukka kebab shop round the back of White Hart Lane station, before someone got shot in there one night, and it ended up closing down

 

[Pretty pink fairy]

haha! That's a new smiley. Have some Specials.

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how about the 4skins "one law for them another one for us"

 

[ChapManiA]

A looter shows off his haul ---- http://twitpic.com/62m6nx

 

[Paxton Dazo]

Tottenham is between 55% and 60% white according to the last census. Just FYI, like. That includes those who class themselves as white British, white Irish and white "other" in the returns, I seem to recall about 9% were of white European (ie non British/Irish backgrounds).

It's not even that high on a matchday

 

[public school boy]

Just as well you're not the brains of the outfit. It was a police shooting that set this riot off in the first place.

Because a known criminal shot at a Policeman first.

 

[DanielT]

The Argus has this exclusive quote from Sussex Police

Interesting how the media always call it "looting".

It's STEALING, ffs. In fact, assuming the premises are closed at the time, it actually constitutes burglary, which could warrant a prison sentence.

I don't care what someone's gripe with society is, half of the stuff this weekend is nothing more than greedy, cowardly, thieving toerags masking their faces and looking for things to steal. It's shameful, and it's not even as though they're going after just the giant chainstores. They're robbing small, local shops too, for crying out loud. Run by local people from the Tottenham area who've probably worked their butts off half their lives for little reward, only for gangs of utter pondlife to smash their way in and help themselves to the contents of the shelves.

 

[Pretty pink fairy]

Tottenham is between 55% and 60% white according to the last census. Just FYI, like. That includes those who class themselves as white British, white Irish and white "other" in the returns, I seem to recall about 9% were of white European (ie non British/Irish backgrounds).

walk up seven sisters road and it looks a bit different to those figures ... just saying like

 

[pasty]

Tottenham is between 55% and 60% white according to the last census. Just FYI, like. That includes those who class themselves as white British, white Irish and white "other" in the returns, I seem to recall about 9% were of white European (ie non British/Irish backgrounds).

Very odd stats from what I see every day. I get a bus from Northumberland Park through to Seven Sisters which goes right along Tottenham High Road. No way are 55%-60% of the poeple I see white.

 

[brightonian finest]

A looter shows off his haul ---- http://twitpic.com/62m6nx

what a f***ing legend

 

[Lady Whistledown]

The striking thing about last night is just how many people from different ethnic backgrounds appeared to be involved. There was a group of Hassidic Jews (forgive my ignorance if that's the wrong term: they were wearing the wide brimmed hats, suits, and had beards & sidelocks?) milling around on a concrete plinth in footage I saw at about 1:30am, one or two were lobbing stuff and the rest were just watching, but it was a pretty unusual sight.

 

[beorhthelm]

Maybe the police shouldn't kill people. - Just a thought!

maybe people shouldnt shoot at the police - just a thought.

 

[BadFish]

Because a known criminal shot at a Policeman first.

Allegedly...

What I don't understand is if police marksmen are highly trained, highly accurate with a wealth of technology at their disposal, why do they have to kill people. Surely a Tazer or some other kind of non fatal weapon could be used. Why does the shot have to be fatal?

There was a story over here of a frightened kid who pulled a knife while surrounded by police, they shot him dead. Surely there was another option?

 

[Buzzer]

how about the 4skins "one law for them another one for us"

Good call. Seeing the pictures I'd go for Skin-Deep Baddies Boogie. (Skin-Deep were a bloody great skin band)

 

[Pretty pink fairy]

The striking thing about last night is just how many people from different ethnic backgrounds appeared to be involved. There was a group of Hassidic Jews (forgive my ignorance if that's the wrong term: they were wearing the wide brimmed hats, suits, and had beards & sidelocks?) milling around on a concrete plinth in footage I saw at about 1:30am, one or two were lobbing stuff and the rest were just watching, but it was a pretty unusual sight.

bless em

 

[Woodchip]

The striking thing about last night is just how many people from different ethnic backgrounds appeared to be involved. There was a group of Hassidic Jews (forgive my ignorance if that's the wrong term: they were wearing the wide brimmed hats, suits, and had beards & sidelocks?) milling around on a concrete plinth in footage I saw at about 1:30am, one or two were lobbing stuff and the rest were just watching, but it was a pretty unusual sight.

Orthodox Jews (or Ultra Orthodox) maybe. I don't think there's much difference between Hasidic and Ultra Orthodox though.

 

[BadFish]

http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2011/aug/07/tottenham-community-leaders?intcmp=239://

Community leaders warned Tottenham police immediately before Saturday's rioting that a peaceful protest over the fatal shooting by officers of a local man could get out of control, it has emerged.

More than 100 people who demanded to see a senior officer at Tottenham police station feared that if they were still there by nightfall it could cause problems in an area with tensions running high.

"I told the chief inspector personally that we wanted to leave before nightfall. If he kept us hanging around after nightfall, it was going to be on his head. We couldn't guarantee it wouldn't get out of control," said Stafford Scott, a community organiser, who accompanied the family of the shot man, Mark Duggan.

"If a senior police officer had come to speak to us, we would have left. We arrived at 5pm, we had planned a one-hour silent protest. We were there until 9pm. Police were absolutely culpable. Had they been more responsive when we arrived at the police station, asking for a senior officer to talk with the family, we would have left the vicinity before the unrest started.

"It is unforgivable that police refused dialogue. We know the history here – how can Tottenham have a guy killed by police on Thursday, and resist requests for dialogue from the community 48 hours later?"

There were also claims that police were warned on Thursday evening and Friday morning by people with knowledge of Tottenham that there could be "significant" community reaction to Duggan's death.

Duggan's fiancee, Semone Wilson, 29, said the family had not wanted trouble, only answers. "When we were outside the police station last night we wanted someone to come out. We want some answers. I have not even told my children that he is dead because we cannot give them any answers."

Of the violence, Wilson said: "I am not happy about what has happened. We didn't want this trouble. We wanted some answers."

Shaun Hall, Duggan's older brother, said the family was "not condoning any kind of actions like that at all, or for this [action] to be taken in my brother's name". He appealed to people in the community who were frustrated and angry to "try and hold it down".

The family were "devastated" at his death, with "the most gruelling" thing for Duggan's parents being that nobody had officially informed them what had happened. He dismissed allegations that Duggan had shot at police as "rubbish".

The IPCC commissioner Rachel Cerfontyne met family members after accusations that they had been left unsupported and isolated since Thursday's shooting.

While Cerfontyne, who is running the independent investigation, is not thought to have met the family until Sunday, the IPCC – faced with criticism from the family – said it had been in regular contact.

Forensic examiners were slowly and painstakingly working their way through the crime scene as part of the police investigation. Officers from the homicide and serious crime command and specialist investigators from the public order branch were reviewing CCTV footage and taking witness statements.

 

[Eggmundo]

Have the Judean People's Front got involved yet?

 

[crasher]

walk up seven sisters road and it looks a bit different to those figures ... just saying like

Seven Sisters Road isn't in Enfield.