[Albion] Security for Palace game

[Weststander]

Found this on the club site: Palace travel

However it states 'clockwise' not anti-clockwise. I don't get what is different? I leave the ground, walk down the long steps by the West and towards the North and then past the station towards The Bridge. That's what I did last year and that is clockwise?

What am I missing here?

It doesn’t affect your route.

If you wanted to instead turn left and walk past the WS then SS, the police would block you.

 

[PILTDOWN MAN]

Found this on the club site: Palace travel

However it states 'clockwise' not anti-clockwise. I don't get what is different? I leave the ground, walk down the long steps by the West and towards the North and then past the station towards The Bridge. That's what I did last year and that is clockwise?

What am I missing here?

You're right but last year those that wanted to go round to the east (I park towards Lewes in a private drive) were stumped as the police stopped people going clockwise, they then got heavy handed and sent people back anti-clockwise, that led to those escorting the Palace fans being met with a load of fans coming face to face. The stewards then opened up the doors to allow Brighton fans back into the West Lower. They closed us in until the Palace fans had gone by. An utter shambles by the police and the stewards were all saying what a huge f*** up the police had made.

 

[Green Cross Code Man]

It doesn’t affect your route.

If you wanted to instead turn left and walk past the WS then SS, the police would block you.

Thanks, the OP stated that 'once again we are all walking right round the stadium' and that is what threw me.

 

[Seaview Seagull]

Found this on the club site: Palace travel

However it states 'clockwise' not anti-clockwise. I don't get what is different? I leave the ground, walk down the long steps by the West and towards the North and then past the station towards The Bridge. That's what I did last year and that is clockwise?

What am I missing here?

It's not a problem for you. The problem is those in the west stand who need to get to the coach park or park and ride buses. They will have to walk past the north stand then by the east stand just as easy standers will be going in the opposite direction if they want the train or the bridge car park.

 

[pure_white]

So does this mean for trains:
leaving East you go via South and west then down to trains from NW corner?
leaving north you have to walk past east then south then west and exit NW corner (Wont this encourage fans to bottle neck walking up to family NW stand to exit there so as to avoid walking around the entire ground?)
leave west stand walk to towards NW corner then walk to trains?
and presume of you lucky enough to be in NW corner you just exit for trains?

I still don't get why this necessary, sorry if im being thick (please someone explain) but if ppl are walking in all directions normally and all those smellhurst lot are contained inside the ground then surely that's workable as always in fact improved as there as less ppl walking in all directions?

I am guessing the all walk in one direction means Police can kettle home fans in a moving kettle if required knowing who is who? But if fans arguably more likely wanting to give these smellhurst lot a smack in the mouth come from the north stand, having us walk via the east stand, south stand then west stand the long way around to the train station (where majority of smellhurst will end up) surely that create possibility of clashes as it is overly reliant on north standers in particular leaving on time (i.e. not staying on for a drink, celebrate with the team a 5-0 win post match etc)?

Im surprised the smellhurst special train stops at Three Bridges - aren't some Albion likely to choose this (or accidentally end up on it?) we always used to have a large fans base in Horsham area not sure how well supported we are in North Sussex but when travelling back to Kensington there were lots of Albion fans with the Chelsea lot on the London bound train.

Just wondering does the Palarse train go from Falmer via Brighton or Lewes? I presume it doesnt stop anywhere before the mentioned Three Bridges. Inevitable it will hold up some home fans trains on route home somewhere but guess thats the price to get the scum outta the City ASAP.

 

[pure_white]

SS outside the ground is blocked off. So leaving the WS or NS and wanting to get to the buses, Falmer Village or Village Way …. you’re compelled to walk past the ES.

If the South stand is block at both ends then how can anyone from north and east walk CLOCKwise to the station? surely everyone else (i.e. west and NW) can move anywhere is a clockwise direction.

 

[Acker79]

Surely the best plan is to be four or five goals up by 83mins and most of the away fans will have left?

 

[Bozza]

Surely the best plan is to be four or five goals up by 83mins and most of the away fans will have left?

All joking aside - are they allowed to leave before the police say then can, some time after most Albion have gone?

 

[Weststander]

If the South stand is block at both ends then how can anyone from north and east walk CLOCKwise to the station? surely everyone else (i.e. west and NW) can move anywhere is a clockwise direction.

All anyone needs to know is that Albion supporters cannot head past the SS (in either direction).

WS, NS and ES folk wanting to get to the train station are completely unaffected by this. Unless they like to circle the stadium for old times sake after games.

 

[Easy 10]

All joking aside - are they allowed to leave before the police say then can, some time after most Albion have gone?

I was incarcerated inside Selhurst Park during the 5-0, having been refused exit shortly after the 4th goal went in. We were kept in for a good 20-25 minutes after the final whistle that day IIRC, before being kettled down to the station.

I see no reason why they can't be held back for 20 minutes after the final whistle to allow the normal fans to disperse.

 

[pure_white]

All anyone needs to know is that Albion supporters cannot head past the SS (in either direction).

WS, NS and ES folk wanting to get to the train station are completely unaffected by this. Unless they like to circle the stadium for old times sake after games.

Makes sense BUT thats not clockwise for North and East stands going to stn and thats confusing if SS is blocked both ways as club message clockwise will result in 1000s north and east heading towards south then u-turn back on themselves.

 

[Weststander]

Makes sense BUT thats not clockwise for North and East stands going to stn and thats confusing if SS is blocked both ways as club message clockwise will result in 1000s north and east heading towards south then u-turn back on themselves.

My head’s spinning with this eternal chat about clockwise and anti clockwise, in the early hours .

Off to get some sleep.

 

[kevo]

I was incarcerated inside Selhurst Park during the 5-0, having been refused exit shortly after the 4th goal went in. We were kept in for a good 20-25 minutes after the final whistle that day IIRC, before being kettled down to the station.

I see no reason why they can't be held back for 20 minutes after the final whistle to allow the normal fans to disperse.

It was longer than that, I think - I reckon it was about an hour, and then a slow escort round the houses to Norwood Junction.

What a thoroughly miserable experience that afternoon was.

 

[Easy 10]

It was longer than that, I think - I reckon it was about an hour, and then a slow escort round the houses to Norwood Junction.

What a thoroughly miserable experience that afternoon was.

My last visit. I've never been since, I will never go again.

Its not just the result that day. The whole awayday experience is an absolute shitshow. The whole place is a slum, you can't go for a decent pint anywhere, and you're treated like filth by the met. I just can't be arsed any more.

 

[The Fifth Column]

My head’s spinning with this eternal chat about clockwise and anti clockwise, in the early hours .

Off to get some sleep.

I agree, I can't make head nor tail of what anyone is saying, I have visions of Swindons magic roundabout.

 

[trueblue]

This was a shambles last season. Loads of people need to get to the coach park for buses which was impossible - and then the pushy, shouty police arrived to pile their way through everyone. Just keep them in the stadium for 20 minutes and let us go home. The police seem to have no problem holding us for half an hour at Selhurst.

 

[Paulie Gualtieri]

So does this mean for trains:
leaving East you go via South and west then down to trains from NW corner?
leaving north you have to walk past east then south then west and exit NW corner (Wont this encourage fans to bottle neck walking up to family NW stand to exit there so as to avoid walking around the entire ground?)
leave west stand walk to towards NW corner then walk to trains?
and presume of you lucky enough to be in NW corner you just exit for trains?

I still don't get why this necessary, sorry if im being thick (please someone explain) but if ppl are walking in all directions normally and all those smellhurst lot are contained inside the ground then surely that's workable as always in fact improved as there as less ppl walking in all directions?

I am guessing the all walk in one direction means Police can kettle home fans in a moving kettle if required knowing who is who? But if fans arguably more likely wanting to give these smellhurst lot a smack in the mouth come from the north stand, having us walk via the east stand, south stand then west stand the long way around to the train station (where majority of smellhurst will end up) surely that create possibility of clashes as it is overly reliant on north standers in particular leaving on time (i.e. not staying on for a drink, celebrate with the team a 5-0 win post match etc)?

Im surprised the smellhurst special train stops at Three Bridges - aren't some Albion likely to choose this (or accidentally end up on it?) we always used to have a large fans base in Horsham area not sure how well supported we are in North Sussex but when travelling back to Kensington there were lots of Albion fans with the Chelsea lot on the London bound train.

Just wondering does the Palarse train go from Falmer via Brighton or Lewes? I presume it doesnt stop anywhere before the mentioned Three Bridges. Inevitable it will hold up some home fans trains on route home somewhere but guess thats the price to get the scum outta the City ASAP.

The red line will be a barrier

People going to the station will go their normal way

People going to the coach park from west and assume home south west corner will need to walk all the way around the stadium via north and east stands

 

[The Seagull]

All joking aside - are they allowed to leave before the police say then can, some time after most Albion have gone?

Seems the most obvious answer.

 

[Hamilton]

After the shit show at Selhurst it was always going to be crap.

If they just let everyone get on with it, imho there'd be the same or even less trouble than with all the nonsense stirred up by the police

Agree.

Just have a zero tolerance towards trouble. If anything happens and you’re arrested it’s an automatic banning order.

 

[BNthree]

All anyone needs to know is that Albion supporters cannot head past the SS (in either direction).

This was the problem last time. They were enforcing both walk clockwise and you can’t pass the South stand. It’s not possible to enforce both when there are East stand supporters that need to get to the station or car parks.