[Albion] Season Ticket Numbers

[Terry Butcher Tribute Act]

I think there will be an initial drop for various reasons, but as time goes on and things get more 'normal' it will ramp up as people ease back into their own ways (and hopefully the job market recovers!)

Hopefully Barber understands this and is a bit more reasonable with the pricing, not usually his style i know

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[The Lemming Stomper]

if its the difference between putting food on the table or going to football there can only ever be one outcome.

Football

 

[Bry Nylon]

I'm not a STH but would always consider attending a few fixtures per season assuming one-off ticket prices aren't ridiculous and as other weekend priorities allow.

Sitting outside in the stadium doesn't concern me so much but would still feel uneasy about being packed onto platforms and trains to travel to and from the stadium. Probably irrational and I'm sure the concern will diminish over time.

 

[Tim Over Whelmed]

Sounds overly pessimistic to me.....I think there will be a lot of ST holders not renewing for various reasons (all understandable - finances, VAR, fear or whatever), but equally there is a huge pent-up demand I think for people wanting to just ‘do stuff’ after so long cooped up at home (not just football obviously). If, as expected, everyone has had at least their first jab (and most likely second) and the grounds are fully open, I think they’ll fill up, even if it is with more casual supporters. Once jabbed I really think the vast majority will crack on with things - even now, some people seem to think wearing a mask makes them invincible (if the supermarket is anything to go by) so once the population has immunity things will return to whatever normal is very quickly.

Indeed, not saying they won't be full but I do feel demand for STs will be much less, and I sincerely hope I'm wrong.

 

[el punal]

It's going to take me a while to get used to crowds again. After avoiding any contact of that
type for so long. So, I imagine there might be a natural fear of crowds for a while at least, however
irrational it may be at the time.

The trains to/from Falmer will be fun then - if Southern introduce social distancing prepare to wait on the platform for some 48 hours before and after the match.

 

[Blue Valkyrie]

The trains to/from Falmer will be fun then - if Southern introduce social distancing prepare to wait on the platform for some 48 hours before and after the match.

We'll have to get to the Swan early for several "Substantial meals" I guess.

I hope they have got lots of Scotch Eggs in.

 

[Dave the OAP]

I'm not a STH but would always consider attending a few fixtures per season assuming one-off ticket prices aren't ridiculous and as other weekend priorities allow.

Sitting outside in the stadium doesn't concern me so much but would still feel uneasy about being packed onto platforms and trains to travel to and from the stadium. Probably irrational and I'm sure the concern will diminish over time.

I think that is probably the same for most people. For those of us who jump on the park and ride busses, packed in getting to the stadium from Mill Hill, and then packed into a queue to get on and packed in the busses going back, that is a real problem.

If we are losing money with full stadiums, I fear for the club when I can’t see them getting back to a “ full stadium” for who knows how long until this is finally brought under control. If the science is saying that you are not 95% covered until you have had two vaccines, only around 50% covered with 1 jab, then possibly most people will have had theirs by say September, but then they start again revaccinating with the second jab...and of course how long does the initial jab’ antibodies actually last.

So personally speaking I can’t see a full stadium being for at least season 22/23.

By that time how many people will have got out of the habit of going to football?

 

[el punal]

We'll have to get to the Swan early for several "Substantial meals" I guess.

I hope they have got lots of Scotch Eggs in.

If that’s the case I definitely will NOT be behind you when you go up the steps in the stadium.

 

[rippleman]

If I have to start paying my DD when there is still no prospect of going then I will not renew my ST. I'm not paying for something I'm not getting.

On the other hand, if payment is not required until we can all attend again then I will renew.

Simple as that really. I have no fear of crowds once I've had my jabs.

 

[schmunk]

Sitting outside in the stadium doesn't concern me so much but would still feel uneasy about being packed onto platforms and trains to travel to and from the stadium. Probably irrational and I'm sure the concern will diminish over time.

It's OK, Southern have introduced some new rolling stock...

 

[Dave the OAP]

If I have to start paying my DD when there is still no prospect of going then I will not renew my ST. I'm not paying for something I'm not getting.

On the other hand, if payment is not required until we can all attend again then I will renew.

Simple as that really. I have no fear of crowds once I've had my jabs.

This is a really difficult one.

I have a golf club membership that we are all paying of around £1000 a year. This subscription year April to March we have had periods where we couldn’t ( like now) get on the course. So we are paying for membership of a club that we can’t use the facilities. As a club they can’t afford to refund like the albion have done as with most clubs, we run on the goodwill of the members. BUT if we cancel the membership, when the courses start opening, we can’t play as we are no longer members....if we look to rejoin, we have a period where we can’t play as the “ loyal members” are allocated all the tee times!

It’s a catch 22 situation with us.


Btw re the second jab...according to the science, if you have had two jabs, and the person next to you in the stadium has just had one, you can pass on COVID to that person. That is all the fuss about hugging grannies who have had two jabs at the moment. It will only be safe when everyone has had the second jab

 

[Arthur]

I think that is probably the same for most people. For those of us who jump on the park and ride busses, packed in getting to the stadium from Mill Hill, and then packed into a queue to get on and packed in the busses going back, that is a real problem.

If we are losing money with full stadiums, I fear for the club when I can’t see them getting back to a “ full stadium” for who knows how long until this is finally brought under control. If the science is saying that you are not 95% covered until you have had two vaccines, only around 50% covered with 1 jab, then possibly most people will have had theirs by say September, but then they start again revaccinating with the second jab...and of course how long does the initial jab’ antibodies actually last.

So personally speaking I can’t see a full stadium being for at least season 22/23.

By that time how many people will have got out of the habit of going to football?

I think you are right.

As you point out the issue is going to be getting people to and from the stadium. Not done the PnR since Withdean but the trains are as you describe the PnR busses. Being as reliant as we are on public transport I really can't see how we will be able to allow full houses until the entire country has been vaccinated and we are sure it is working. Now that certainly isn't going to be this calendar year.

I think the best we can hope for is an air of normality to everyday life this time next year.

 

[southstandandy]

Weren't we led to believe there was a waiting list not so long ago of about 7000?

Surely many not renewing (sadly like myself) will have their seats snapped up by many on the waiting list (finances depending).

 

[Neville's Breakfast]

Very tricky question. I admire the optimism of a number of posters on this thread. However, there are question marks over future vaccine supplies, meaning uncertainty as to when two jabs will have been delivered to enough people to have a marked effect on transmission. That means that hospitalization and long Covid will not have gone away by August. New variants and mutations could also set back the vaccination programme and its effectiveness. Very little in life is risk free but there may be sufficient uncertainty to put a lot of people off ST renewal. Of course the club will be able to rely on those who think ‘it will never happen to me.’ Personally I am happy to renew provided there is no price hike but I am not expecting full stadiums in August so a return to some sort of ballot system with the ability to opt out seems most likely. One of the club e mails mentioned that payment would only be expected once there is a return to full stadiums so perhaps they are planning on only resuming direct debits once we reach that stage. In the meantime we have a credit balance of a quarter of this years ST cost.

 

[Worthing exile]

If you had asked me a year ago, I would have said I can't imagine life without live football. Now I have learnt to live without it.
No more leaving home at 12:30 for a 3pm ko and getting back gone 6pm. I can now do other things on a Saturday and still be on the settee for ko.
It will be a tough call for me but as long as tv coverage is still there, I can see me giving up my ST.

 

[Gazwag]

At current (and increasing) rates, first doses will be finished way before September. More like April/May - assume say 50m left to do at 4m per week, will be done in 3 months or so. Once we have virtually everyone vaccinated they won’t need to insist on proof of vaccine because the numbers that haven’t had it won’t be material anyway.

Sorry but that is a lot of assumptions, I'm not sure we will see full houses again until Easter 2022 - love to be wrong - maybe 20-30% capacities come this autumn.

 

[Neville's Breakfast]

If you had asked me a year ago, I would have said I can't imagine life without live football. Now I have learnt to live without it.
No more leaving home at 12:30 for a 3pm ko and getting back gone 6pm. I can now do other things on a Saturday and still be on the settee for ko.
It will be a tough call for me but as long as tv coverage is still there, I can see me giving up my ST.

TV coverage won’t continue as it is now once fans are back in stadiums

 

[BBassic]

I'd decided to give up my ST a few months before COVID was first mentioned in the press. Number of reasons for my decision, none of them to do with the football itself. Strangely though, knowing that we can't go for the foreseeable has made me question the decision to give it all up.

Always want what we can't have, I guess.

 

[Dave the OAP]

Of course, if the club really are getting hammered financially, then there must be discussions at a higher level that if they only allow say, 20% of the stadium capacity in, the cost could be £50 a ticket or something like that to recuperate the lost revenue...also if food and beverages are not allowed to be sold yet.

Someone above mentioned relegation and how that could be a major game changer. I think that is a real issue that will be playing on the mind of every club outside the top 10 of the prem. losing TV income could really be a issue for many clubs like ours

 

[essbee1]

The trains to/from Falmer will be fun then - if Southern introduce social distancing prepare to wait on the platform for some 48 hours before and after the match.

Around Sept./Oct. I started commuting into London by tube for a short while (my job required I did it).
It was very, very, church-like quiet generally. However, I remember the day that there was a big signal failure on one
of the lines and everyone started piling onto the next available train when it came.
To say it scared the **** out of me is an under-statement, but if you can imagine rush hour trains of old,
you'd get the picture.