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[Albion] Season Ticket Farce @PaulBarber



amexer

Well-known member
Aug 8, 2011
6,809
Barber often goes on about discounted STs, I would like to ask him how many STs he thinks he would sell if they were not discounted for those committing to 19 games,
Also what he thinks attendance would be if travel subsidy was withdrawn and people had to queue up to pay for train and buses. Would certainly be fun having ticket checked at Brighton and Falmer stations
 






trueblue

Well-known member
Jul 5, 2003
10,946
Hove
It strikes me that the new way of passing on season tickets to friends etc works fine if you habitually share a seat around but punishes those who very occasionally can’t go or, say, once a year would like to attend with a friend.

Which seems the wrong way round to me.
 


Springal

Well-known member
Feb 12, 2005
24,767
GOSBTS
Clearly Barber hasnt 'read the room' on this. I rarely miss home games but I didnt go to Wolves and wont be spending my Boxing Day evening trying to get to the game and then get home with no public transport. Consequently my seat, and the two others of my brother and mate, will be empty because we wont be doing this seat transfer bollox.

Who would have had your tickets for wolves & Boxing Day?
 






Terry Butcher Tribute Act

Well-known member
Aug 18, 2013
3,660
Disappointing response but not a surprising one. Would be better off saying he'll look at the numbers and feedback at the end of the season and make a judgement call on it.

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chaileyjem

#BarberIn
NSC Patron
Jun 27, 2012
14,589
Barber often goes on about discounted STs, I would like to ask him how many STs he thinks he would sell if they were not discounted for those committing to 19 games,
Also what he thinks attendance would be if travel subsidy was withdrawn and people had to queue up to pay for train and buses. Would certainly be fun having ticket checked at Brighton and Falmer stations

Most other PL clubs like Spurs or Arsenal or Chelsea or Brentford or Palace nearly all come via train and buses and public transport and pay for the privilege. Brighton fans don’t. It’s a benefit all ticket holders benefit from. Why don’t other clubs offer it then ?
 


Lower West Stander

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Mar 25, 2012
4,753
Back in Sussex
Barber is protesting too much.

Really poor stuff from him - there’s been a lot of opposition to this and his response is to lash out. I’ve constantly heard on here what an amazing CEO he is and how lucky we are to have him. Well good CEO’s admit their mistakes and don’t come out with absolute rubbish as a defence.

How does he think this helps? He couldn’t have done more to increase antagonism with the club’s passionate fans.


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South west gull

New member
Nov 3, 2021
1,008
Most other PL clubs like Spurs or Arsenal or Chelsea or Brentford or Palace nearly all come via train and buses and public transport and pay for the privilege. Brighton fans don’t. It’s a benefit all ticket holders benefit from. Why don’t other clubs offer it then ?
Transport costs are included in all our brighton season tickets and match day tickets otherwise they would be a lot cheaper

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amexer

Well-known member
Aug 8, 2011
6,809
Most other PL clubs like Spurs or Arsenal or Chelsea or Brentford or Palace nearly all come via train and buses and public transport and pay for the privilege. Brighton fans don’t. It’s a benefit all ticket holders benefit from. Why don’t other clubs offer it then ?

Thats easy. Through no fault of club ground is in sticks and a pain to get to. Unless you have a parking space it has to be train/bus.Apart from Brentford have visited all those grounds and with no trouble have either been dropped off by friends I have visited in London or by taxi. No problem. This is near impossible at Amex unless you want to sit in traffic for a long time.
 


BNthree

Plastic JCL
Sep 14, 2016
11,442
WeHo
Most other PL clubs like Spurs or Arsenal or Chelsea or Brentford or Palace nearly all come via train and buses and public transport and pay for the privilege. Brighton fans don’t. It’s a benefit all ticket holders benefit from. Why don’t other clubs offer it then ?

Most Londoners have Oyster cards and the buses and tubes are cheaper than our options.
 




Lower West Stander

Well-known member
Mar 25, 2012
4,753
Back in Sussex
Transport costs are included in all our brighton season tickets and match day tickets otherwise they would be a lot cheaper

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The problem with that at the moment is that people understandably don’t want to use public transport.

And of course the club has made parking much harder this year because of the Bennett’s Field cock up. Going in your car may not be Barber’s preferred method of transport - but it’s the safest way at the moment….


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Weststander

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Aug 25, 2011
69,173
Withdean area
The problem with that at the moment is that people understandably don’t want to use public transport.

And of course the club has made parking much harder this year because of the Bennett’s Field cock up. Going in your car may not be Barber’s preferred method of transport - but it’s the safest way at the moment….


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Cock up, or Bennett was incredibly greedy?
 


I cannot believe what I'm reading today.

Barber cannot stand there and say the scheme works, when quite clearly it doesn't!

We Are Brighton, who I always agree with, hit the nail on the head. He's just acting like a lying politician now and he needs to get a grip. He's hiding away from the fact that this has pissed off Alot of very loyal fans, including myself.

I can feel a BANNER coming. Highlighting financial struggles of the working fan and really hitting home that this scheme needs to STOP.

Anyone have any suggestions?
 






Springal

Well-known member
Feb 12, 2005
24,767
GOSBTS
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I can feel a BANNER coming. Highlighting financial struggles of the working fan and really hitting home that this scheme needs to STOP.

Anyone have any suggestions?

What does financial struggles have to do with fans having an ‘opt in’ scheme to pay to share a ticket ? If you can’t afford it, don’t do it.

Just a reminder the clubs lost £67M last year - and Tony Bloom has invested £350M(?)+.

If you don’t want to pay the £20, then don’t. The numbers will speak for themselves when the board review at the end of the season
 




herecomesaregular

We're in the pipe, 5 by 5
Oct 27, 2008
4,645
Still in Brighton
Disappointing response but not a surprising one. Would be better off saying he'll look at the numbers and feedback at the end of the season and make a judgement call on it.

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This should have been the sensible short answer from him but PB loves to talk and loves to justify himself in the "I'm right, anyone who disagrees is wrong" kind a way. He is doing a very good job in most parts but i don't like the way he talks to the fans sometimes. You don't always have to respond to criticism with justification, sometimes better to acknowledge it and say you'll look at it again when more of the season's data is in. And fan's perception will affect season ticket renewal more than who is right or wrong or such "facts".
 




Neville's Breakfast

Well-known member
May 1, 2016
13,450
Oxton, Birkenhead
I cannot believe what I'm reading today.

Barber cannot stand there and say the scheme works, when quite clearly it doesn't!

We Are Brighton, who I always agree with, hit the nail on the head. He's just acting like a lying politician now and he needs to get a grip. He's hiding away from the fact that this has pissed off Alot of very loyal fans, including myself.

I can feel a BANNER coming. Highlighting financial struggles of the working fan and really hitting home that this scheme needs to STOP.

Anyone have any suggestions?

How about this;

Some things money can’t buy. Sharing a ST isn’t one. The Amex.’
 


Weststander

Well-known member
Aug 25, 2011
69,173
Withdean area
This should have been the sensible short answer from him but PB loves to talk and loves to justify himself in the "I'm right, anyone who disagrees is wrong" kind a way. He is doing a very good job in most parts but i don't like the way he talks to the fans sometimes. You don't always have to respond to criticism with justification, sometimes better to acknowledge it and say you'll look at it again when more of the season's data is in. And fan's perception will affect season ticket renewal more than who is right or wrong or such "facts".

Combative.
On the front foot.
Taking complainants on head on.
Lumping all concerns and carefully considered arguments as “clickbait nature”.

Does not come across as truly listening, conciliatory or reading the audience.

Clickbait would be commenting just for reader numbers and effect. That’s dismissive.
 


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