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SCR Phone In Special
- Thread starter Harty
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Knotty
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Who said that?
Icy Gull
Back on the rollercoaster
- Jul 5, 2003
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Nobody, just my take on what's been said on this thread.
I don't think we should criticise DK for privately discussing matters with supporters who work closely with the club. He took a lot of flak and was probably trigger happy even then but didn't go running to the Argus for obvious reasons.
LB, When speaking to Harty did you speculate on a replacement for Wilkins or had DK already given an indication of who he may be bring in?
I don't see that any damage has been done, if anything it's amazing this took so many of us by suprise!!
LB, When speaking to Harty did you speculate on a replacement for Wilkins or had DK already given an indication of who he may be bring in?
I don't see that any damage has been done, if anything it's amazing this took so many of us by suprise!!
So you think that the Chairman discussing the removal of the current successful manager with anyone outside of the club is reasonable ?
Not really sure if the initial thought to even contemplate sacking Wilkins is a great footballing decision but to then somehow allow the information to be given to supporters ahead of Wilkins himself is indefensible.
Its another example of bad practice that runs through the club at present.
Lord Bracknell
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I don't recall any speculation with Harty about who might replace Wilkins.
In the conversation I had with him, DK expressed his concerns about the manager. He never went as far as saying that he intended to get rid of Wilkins. The question of a replacement therefore never arose.
Lord Bracknell
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As I've just posted, he DIDN'T discuss the removal of the manager with me.
steward 433
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But you are totally missing the point again!
Dick Knight is the chairman and it's his choice to talk to who he wants to about what he wants to.
As for bad practice you don't know every single in and out of the club or the relationship between Dick and the supporters so i wouldn't use that phrase
That's what I suspected, thanks.
Thats more of a statement of what happened.
Our discussion is questioning whether it is fair and reasonable on Wilkins and should the club be acting in such a way anyway.
I do not subscribe to your 'He is the Chairman' bit, a running of a football club is far more intricate than that and needs to be handled carefully and professionally.
The point is that you feel it is 'good practice' for the Chairman of any football club to talk of the possible sacking of his current manager to supporters and media ahead of discussing this with the manager.
Whos missing the point ?
Lord Bracknell
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You are.
As I've said, the Chairman DIDN'T talk of the possible sacking of his current manager to supporters and media ahead of discussing this with the manager.
steward 433
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you as you are still trying to twist what LB and other people have said.
SACKING ANYONE WAS NOT DISCUSSED.
Knotty
Well-known member
How can you not subscribe to the 'He is the Chairman' bit. HE IS!
Why is a football club, as a business, different to any other? Why is it more intricate? He chose to express his concerns about the manager to one or two individuals who he trusted to be discreet .. and they were. Where is the bad practice in that?
I've done it in my business. I chose to move someone to a diffrenet role despite the fact that she was very popular with her colleagues and with our customers. I discussed it with someone outside the business because I wanted an outside view. I got that, and complete discretion. I did the deed and although, she was not happy with it, it proved to be 100% the right decison for the company and its customers.
Why is the DK situation any different. He didn't do it for fun. He and board have done it for what they believe is the good of the company and the club.
The fact that you, or I, or others may believe it to be the wrong decision is completely irrelevant.
steward 433
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Seagullible
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funny thing is, the decision was not JUST DK, it was a board decision, DK is the chairman of the board so is the one making the staements. In the end, they are doing what they feel is best for the club. Some don't agree, some like myself are a bit bemused and have concerns but how many of us know all that happens behind the scenes?
Even discussing anything that can be deemed detrimental to his role as manager is unprofessional.
This was at the time when we were making a push for the play offs and still the Him.
Who was he speaking to, the Board ?
No bloody supporters and the local radio guy !
Not sure what happened there !
Even discussing anything that can be deemed detrimental to his role as manager is unprofessional.
This was at the time when we were making a push for the play offs and the Chairman is intimating that he is not trusting of Wilkins and saying this to supporters and the local radio guy ahead of Wilkins himself !
You can runaround the word sack if you want, but if the Chairman is saying these things, that is always the likely outcome.
Knotty
Well-known member
You are right. The vast majority on NSC know very little of what goes on behind the scenes, although some seem to think they do, and some believe they have a right to. They don't.
As supporters we must hope that all decisions that are made by the board are the right ones for the club, on and off the field. We can have our views, but we don't have a say. It's always been like that. It may be 'our' club, but it's their company and business.
Lord Bracknell
On fire
Oh, for heaven's sake! DK didn't talk to Harty. I did.
And everyone knew that these conversations were not for public consumption.