[Politics] Scotland

[Tom Hark Preston Park]

 

[BensGrandad]

What would happen to all the people in Corby if Scotland gained independence

 

[osgood]

The main thing is that they , the SNP, dont actually want to be separate from the Union
they just want to keep themselves employed in high salaried jobs just to moan about being attached to England
Nice work if you can get it !

 

[Southern Scouse]

Sorry I like Scotland and the Scots.

 

[maltaseagull]

The EU has said they would expect to be able to admit Scotland into the EU. A big issue is one of currency because Sturgeon has indicated she wouldn't switch to the Euro.

A country with Scotland's financial clout would never be able to join the EU unless it accepted a change to the Euro. Besides that, would they be able to keep the uk currency if they were no longer part of the union?

 

[Pretty pink fairy]

Would they be taking the Scottish army regiments with them and princess Anne
Regards
DF

 

[Pretty pink fairy]

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sou...BMAR6BAgEEA4&usg=AOvVaw30RBuqtHzZ_0euHTeWbNIc
Regards
DF

 

[Paulie Gualtieri]

Has there ever been a credible assessment on the financial impact for both Scotland and the remaining UK countries if they did leave? I can’t see Scotland having the economy to survive and surely they would be a net contributor to the EU, assuming they were allowed in?


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[Murray 17]

I have no idea why our PM is digging in. If they vote to go, there will be no SNP MPs. The Scottish lot have hit the blue majority in Westminster for many years. Putting a wall up deceases probabilities of no blue majorities.

This is what I've never understood. You would think the Conservatives would be happy to lose part of a union, where they have been in the minority historically.

Scotland is the type of country that would benefit from being in the EU. They would get more money back than they put in, unlike the UK. Also, I can't see them being over-run with EU citizens, putting pressure on housing, education and health care, unlike the UK.



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[Murray 17]

...surely they would be a net contributor to the EU, assuming they were allowed in?

There are 9 net contributors to the EU. If you look at who they are (Finland being an odd exception), they're all big countries with big economies. I can't see Scotland falling into that category.



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[Paulie Gualtieri]

There are 9 net contributors to the EU. If you look at who they are (Finland being an odd exception), they're all big countries with big economies. I can't see Scotland falling into that category.



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Sorry I meant the opposite


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[Pavilionaire]

That’s twice you’ve made a false statement. The Tories won 6 seats - not 1. Maybe you should concentrate on facts and less emotion. I realise you’re probably still drowning your sorrows from the remainer stuffing in the GE.

Ok, whatever, it's single figures but makes no odds - a drubbing is a drubbing and my point still stands. As for a Remainer stuffing, I don't call a majority of the vote going to second referendum parties a stuffing.

Carry on gloating and being patronising if it makes you feel better but even Boris realises it's time to start healing and he's a complete ****.

 

[perseus]

Rebuild the border at Hadrian's Wall.

 

[Tokyohands]

Can't really blame them for wanting nothing to do with our bunch of feck wits in Westminster eh.

 

[Shropshire Seagull]

Duke of Edinburgh needs to snuff it first
and Balmoral will have to be sold too

 

[Kinky Gerbil]

I have no issue with them having another referendum.

Yep, I don’t think anyone should.

But if they vote to stay in that’s it for decades unless something else changes.

I believe they voted to stay in on the basis of UK being in EU - which isn’t the case now.

It makes no sense to not allow them a vote as it will just build resentment up.

 

[cardboard]

I think i have read that they don't pass the financial criteria to join the EU, plus they don't want to join the Euro which i think is another mandatory requirement. Then there would have to be a permanent hard border, again won't happen.
I just cannot see it myself

 

[ferring seagull]

Duke of Edinburgh needs to snuff it first
and Balmoral will have to be sold too

Nah, Nippy will use it as a weekend retreat having bought it for the party at a knockdown price !

 

[ferring seagull]

A country with Scotland's financial clout would never be able to join the EU unless it accepted a change to the Euro. Besides that, would they be able to keep the uk currency if they were no longer part of the union?

In my recollection they would not be allowed to retain the £ sterling and, in any event, I seriously doubt that the EU would welcome Scotland with open arms given their current fiscal state.

People I am in touch with up there reckon that Nippy is just using 'Indyref2' as a way of scoring political points and would possibly even shy away from it if it was offered (which I doubt it would be).

An earlier poster suggested that, in the event of an unsuccessful 'Indyref2' that Holyrood should be closed down - I disagree with that in that Wales and Northern Ireland also have devolved assemblies. What I would say is that far better to leave them in Holyrood and seriously reduce their representation at Westminster which is currently hugely disproportionate.

By my rough calculations, with proportional representation for the UK parliament and based on current results, we would looking at Conservatives 302, Labour 222, SNP 27, Lib Dems 80, DUP 5, Plaid Cymru 3 and SDLP 3. Have ignored the others.

We already spend too much time listening to the SNP bleating in Westminster Parliament where they have little or no interest in anything other than their own agenda !

 

[Sirnormangall]

I think i have read that they don't pass the financial criteria to join the EU, plus they don't want to join the Euro which i think is another mandatory requirement. Then there would have to be a permanent hard border, again won't happen.
I just cannot see it myself

I’d have thought all those questions (and more) need to be answered before holding a referendum - otherwise what are you asking people to vote on?