[Football] Saudi consortium to take over Newcastle

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The Fish

Exiled Geordie
Jan 5, 2017
403
You are able to separate NUFC from the Saudi State. To me, your club is now a PR arm of the Saudi State. Despite your comparisons. It shouldn't have been allowed to happen, but it has, and the whole of football has to live with that consequence. It is shameful. And a shame for such a great club. And we are all the less for it. So spare us your hedgefund/Ashley bollocks.
I can separate the Saudi State from NUFC, just as I did with Hall, and Ashley, but I understand if you can't.

I agree it shouldn't have been allowed to happen, but it has. Same for Man City, PSG, Chelsea and all that. The clubs are more and more moving away from the communities they were born from.

I'm not here to make that state look any better. Do you think any better of them because of this takeover? I know that I don't. The club's changed owners 3 times in my life, it'll likely change again.
 


Dick Knights Mumm

Take me Home Falmer Road
Jul 5, 2003
19,736
Hither and Thither
I believe Saudi Arabia are a different level of malevolence to this world than Qatar, UAE, and whoever else. I can see how it might make it easier for NUFC supporters to look on the Saudis as equivalent to a hedge fund/Qatar/UAE/Adu Dhadi or whoever. Unless I am missing something there is little comparison. I also have a minority view that knowing what we see now Chelsea trophies have been paid for by the people of Ukraine and should be expunged or at least an *. But I understand we all draw our own lines in the sand. I don't watch NUFC games any more and prefer not to read anything about them. I feel sorry for the position that thinking Newcastle supporters find themselves. It can't be easy.
 


Dick Knights Mumm

Take me Home Falmer Road
Jul 5, 2003
19,736
Hither and Thither
I can separate the Saudi State from NUFC, just as I did with Hall, and Ashley, but I understand if you can't.

I agree it shouldn't have been allowed to happen, but it has. Same for Man City, PSG, Chelsea and all that. The clubs are more and more moving away from the communities they were born from.

I'm not here to make that state look any better. Do you think any better of them because of this takeover? I know that I don't. The club's changed owners 3 times in my life, it'll likely change again.
And nothing personal my old fruit. I thought I had opened the Saudi Football thread - which is why I saw your post!

Best of luck to you.

The Saudis though ........
 






The Fish

Exiled Geordie
Jan 5, 2017
403
I believe Saudi Arabia are a different level of malevolence to this world than Qatar, UAE, and whoever else. I can see how it might make it easier for NUFC supporters to look on the Saudis as equivalent to a hedge fund/Qatar/UAE/Adu Dhadi or whoever. Unless I am missing something there is little comparison. I also have a minority view that knowing what we see now Chelsea trophies have been paid for by the people of Ukraine and should be expunged or at least an *. But I understand we all draw our own lines in the sand. I don't watch NUFC games any more and prefer not to read anything about them. I feel sorry for the position that thinking Newcastle supporters find themselves. It can't be easy.

I agree that the Saudis are the worst of a bad bunch. No argument there. Unfortunately Newcastle fans don't get a say in who stewards the club. We should, as should any fanbase, but we don't.

What pisses me off are the children and morons with Saudi flags on twitter, or those that leap to that state's defence.
 


aolstudios

Well-known member
Nov 30, 2011
5,280
brighton
I agree that the Saudis are the worst of a bad bunch. No argument there. Unfortunately Newcastle fans don't get a say in who stewards the club. We should, as should any fanbase, but we don't.

What pisses me off are the children and morons with Saudi flags on twitter, or those that leap to that state's defence.
Or suggest that PIF & the Saudi state are separate
 


















Jim in the West

Well-known member
NSC Patron
Sep 13, 2003
4,957
Way out West
This whole Saudi thing is a f***ing nightmare (leaving aside the human rights abuses, beheadings and the rest*)....we now have two clubs in the Premier League who can quite legally get around FFP regulations. The playing field wasn't level anyway, but now it is basically a vertical slope. No wonder Todd didn't seemed concerned about FFP....as soon as they get near the limits, they just sell an ageing "star" to one of the PIF teams for £100m, job done. [*which obviously should very definitely NOT be left aside].

As we know, Chelsea were funded for 20 years by a Russian oligarch, whose proximity to Putin caused him to be sanctioned, forcing the sale of Chelsea. Lo and behold, Chelsea is now owned by a corporate VERY closely linked to the Saudis....who have been massively enriched by the war in Ukraine (I read that Aramco, the Saudi state-run oil company made $160 bn in profit last year). You couldn't make it up.

Luckily I'm not interested in golf....as the Saudis have just bought the whole sport! They are throwing obscene amounts of money at it (eg: they offered Tiger Woods around $1bn to join the LIV tour). However, it can't be too long before they own the IPL and a whole range of other sports (see their attempt to sponsor the Women's World Cup).

But back to football...it is going to be seriously depressing watching this thing play out in the Premier League. I thought I disliked Chelsea too much (even before Potter)....but now it's at a different level.
 




Nobby Cybergoat

Well-known member
Jul 19, 2021
8,632
This whole Saudi thing is a f***ing nightmare (leaving aside the human rights abuses, beheadings and the rest*)....we now have two clubs in the Premier League who can quite legally get around FFP regulations. The playing field wasn't level anyway, but now it is basically a vertical slope. No wonder Todd didn't seemed concerned about FFP....as soon as they get near the limits, they just sell an ageing "star" to one of the PIF teams for £100m, job done. [*which obviously should very definitely NOT be left aside].

As we know, Chelsea were funded for 20 years by a Russian oligarch, whose proximity to Putin caused him to be sanctioned, forcing the sale of Chelsea. Lo and behold, Chelsea is now owned by a corporate VERY closely linked to the Saudis....who have been massively enriched by the war in Ukraine (I read that Aramco, the Saudi state-run oil company made $160 bn in profit last year). You couldn't make it up.

Luckily I'm not interested in golf....as the Saudis have just bought the whole sport! They are throwing obscene amounts of money at it (eg: they offered Tiger Woods around $1bn to join the LIV tour). However, it can't be too long before they own the IPL and a whole range of other sports (see their attempt to sponsor the Women's World Cup).

But back to football...it is going to be seriously depressing watching this thing play out in the Premier League. I thought I disliked Chelsea too much (even before Potter)....but now it's at a different level.
But Newcastle did get to buy Guimares and Isak
 










Algernon

Well-known member
Sep 9, 2012
3,197
Newmarket.
The sport of football as a whole is becoming increasingly underhand, dishonest and super greedy.
It can't carry on, Shirley it will lead to one eventuality.
Perhaps it would be the best thing should football eat itself then reset.
 


Superphil

Dismember
Jul 7, 2003
25,680
In a pile of football shirts
I'm now all for the Super League, let them all go and do it, with some Saudi money thrown in, whatever, I'll drive them there myself. Then the real sport of competitive football can commence.
 


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