Sarah Palin to stand for President?

[Lady Whistledown]

I think America is still a bit of a way off electing a woman president. I always thought they would elect a black man before a woman of any colour.

You see, I thought the opposite, the traditional Republican voters would far rather have a an All American, "family values", hockey-mom, cookies 'n milk type who they think they can manipulate than a black guy, particularly one they still pathetically believe to be (a) foreign and (b) Muslim.

 

[Jonno]

presumably we are talking 50+ ?

In the same way that certain retarded Tories found Thatcher sexy?

 

[Acker79]

You see, I thought the opposite, the traditional Republican voters would far rather have a an All American, "family values", hockey-mom, cookies 'n milk type who they think they can manipulate than a black guy, particularly one they still pathetically believe to be (a) foreign and (b) Muslim.

See, I thought as the younger generation started to influence votes the racial prejudice would be reduced (I think there was a map showing that if the election was limited to under 30s something like 47 of the states would be democrats), but that there is still an inherent gender bias, even the democrats got behind the black man more readily than the woman (though it was close for a while).

 

[Buzzer]

You see, I thought the opposite, the traditional Republican voters would far rather have a an All American, "family values", hockey-mom, cookies 'n milk type who they think they can manipulate than a black guy, particularly one they still pathetically believe to be (a) foreign and (b) Muslim.

I don't think Republicans per se believe they can manipulate Palin any more than any other candidate. It's the lobby groups that will have that mindset and having seen at first hand some of those lobbyists at work they are a very influential and rich bunch of people.

My experience of the USA is that they are quite insular about their politics and don't particularly care about outside perception of their candidates, so the embarrassment factor of having this thought-free proto-fascist as their first female President doesn't really come into play as far as I can see. The USA will still be the world's number one superpower even with Palin as President (Jesus wept - it is a scary thought seeing those words together) but I really don't think she will be any different from Dubya. He is/was just a male version of the Palin character except he's Ivy League and she's middle America (although ironically Alaskan).

If...and it is a big if...she runs for President then it will be the people she surrounds herself with that truly matter. Dubya had some very interesting appointments..Rumsfeld, Condoleezza Rice, Cheney who were the true puppet masters. They ran rings around Dubya intellectually and Rumsfeld, Rice and Cheney were able to pursue their own agendas overseas. They were instrumental in the sacking of Paul O'Neill, the secretary to the Treasury, who openly criticised what was an open policy of aggressive war and the USA's cheque book approach to it.

My own personal opinion is that Palin is too flaky to withstand the onslaught and the nature of US primaries and elections will expose her economically, politically, philosophically in more or less every way. She doesn't have the charisma of Reagan and from what I've seen and read there are no big hitters from within the Republican party willing to nail their colours to her mast. When Reagan took office he had some absolute Goliaths - Baker, Schultz, Haig and especially Weinberger. Dubya had Colin Powell and Rumsfeld and all the names previously mentioned.

If you want my personal opinion on who will be the White Knight to save the Republican party from people like Palin - Fred Karger, economically a hawk, socially a liberal and openly gay. I would love it if Karger ran for president. He would be the first intellectual President since the much maligned Nixon.

 

[readingstockport]

I suspect that plain could never be elected president tbh. If she were to stand she would be subjected to so much press exposure she would simply implode under her own lack of intelligence and stupidty. American elections are won in the middle ground exclusively. The reason Obama took a kicking in the mid-terms was because the middle ground predominantly stayed at home, they didn't vote for republicans. Palin standing would get the middle ground out in their millions to vote against her and the republicans would takes years to recover.

That doesn't mean the wing-nuts haven't taken over the gop and she may well get the nomination but the heads of gop will do anything they can to stop that. They're not stupid, unlike her, and they know she means the end of any credible threat to the dems next time round.

You want to see the kind of wing-nut extremists that support palin then head for world net daily and read the shite they spew.

That horse faced transexual ann coulter has even recently suggested repealing the 26th amendment and the wing-nut gop'ers have picked up on it. Mainstream gop are horrifed by the suggestion.

wing nut daily

 

[Barrel of Fun]

She scares me.

A gun toting, gas guzzling, moose killing, Christian fanatical, foundation covered, lipstick smeared, bitch of a woman.

 

[Buzzer]

Agree entirely. I think non-US perception of the Republicans is skewed towards the loonies that shout the loudest. Let's not forget that this is also the party of PJ O'Rourke. They're not all gun-toting flat-earthers.

 

[BLOCK F]

Not sure really, I sense a lot of make up involved.

Could be scary first thing in morning

Maybe,maybe not....but I reckon I'm man enough....anyway I'm not going to find out am I!

 

[Kalimantan Gull]

I used to think there was no way she could win the primaries, california and new england republicans can't stand her. But the midterm experience, particularly in Delaware, shows that maybe she could, there's some nutters on the far right and they can raise money and media hell. But the same midterms show that those far-right nominees crashed and burned in many places. She has a general election ceiling of 46 %. Her nomination would be the best thing that could happen to Obama because he would be in trouble against someone like Mitt Romney.

 

[RexCathedra]

Her unfavorables are at 52% in last week's Gallup. Her name recognition is already 100%. The result: Zero upside potential. There isn't anyone left for her to convert.

If she announces, her poll numbers will never be better than the week after she announces, and it's all downhill from there.
She'll probably announce, and run, because she's a grifter, and there's a lot of loose money around campaigns. But she'll flame out before the spring.

If she was a stock, you'd mortgage the house and go short with every cent.

 

[Lyndhurst 14]

Hopefully Americans will remember Palin’s interview with Katie Couric. Couric, probably one of the softest celebrity interviewers on US TV, did not exactly give her a grilling but Palin still managed to make a complete tit of herself exposing her ignorance on most subjects apart from hunting moose.

One problem in the States is there are no real credible independent candidates. The last one with any real chance was Ross Perot back in ’92. Ralph Nader may well stand a 5th time but he lost some respect after many Democrats believe he handed Bush victory back in 2000 when he stood for the Green party. Donald Trump is also thinking of standing – it just gets better and better.

 

[RexCathedra]

. Donald Trump is also thinking of standing – it just gets better and better.

Trump won't run, his moment, if he ever had one, which I would debate, was years ago -- anything and anybody even remotely connected to FIRE (Finance, Insurance, Real Estate) is toxic right now. And how many bankruptcies have his firms been through?

The political structure of the US is hardwired to make a successful third-party candidacy for President impossible.

 

[e77]

If Palin gets put up as a Presidential candidate by the Republicans, the Democrats will be dancing in the street as she has no appeal to undecided voters.

 

[readingstockport]

I know this is a bit old as a thread but really, Sarah Palin less popular than zombie horde | Media Matters for America she's not that popular amongst the general mercan public.

 

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I know this is a bit old as a thread but really, Sarah Palin less popular than zombie horde | Media Matters for America she's not that popular amongst the general mercan public.

Thrilling .

 

[e77]

Maybe the big reveal in Walking Dead is that she is President?

 

[Philzo-93]

She scares me.

A gun toting, gas guzzling, moose killing, Christian fanatical, foundation covered, lipstick smeared, bitch of a woman.

Sounds like a transvestite version of George W. Bush

Dear lord, soon enough the Cold War will finally heat up

WE'RE f***ed

 

[Gwylan]

This is brilliant. Extract from Glenn Beck radio show in which she says "we gotta stand with our North Korean allies"

Sarah Palin - North Korean Allies | Glenn Beck | Mediaite

I think she will stand but she's going to get slaughtered in the primaries and has zero chance of getting the nomination

 

[Stat Brother]

Babs Bush said, of Palin:-

'She looks stunning, he loves her family, she love Alaska, and that's where he should stay'.

Or words to that effect.

 

[Lyndhurst 14]

I think she will stand but she's going to get slaughtered in the primaries and has zero chance of getting the nomination

I agree – but….....…..having lived here for 3 years I would never underestimate the great American public. They managed to elect that fuckwit Bush twice – admittedly it was his brother Jeb who got him in the first time. And yesterday a court refused a father custody of his children as he was an agnostic.

http://www.sodahead.com/united-stat...children-for-being-agnostic/question-1348817/