[Albion] Sanchez v Dunk

[Beanstalk]

So, given the choice or option, do you believe that he would have chosen/opted to play for us?

@Beanstalk I ask you the same question

It doesn't matter. There was no choice!

What was very clear is that after his season on loan with us the club had a clear enough indication from the player to bid twice despite Chelsea's very clear refusal to sell him to anyone. None of that particularly matters because Chelsea refused to sell him!

 

[bluenitsuj]

Sanchez is a ****

 

[Stato]

It looked like Sanchez and Steele were interacting and Dunk chipped in with something. My guess would be 'Had we subbed him on for you for the penalties at Wembley, we'd have been in the FA Cup Final.'

 

[HeaviestTed]

Cucurella was so in love with us that he was in tears when he kissed the badge.
5minutes later: Bye mate.

To be fair his hair was f***ing long, most of us fans are bald so it was never gonna work long term.

 

[Sid and the Sharknados]

It doesn't matter. There was no choice!

What was very clear is that after his season on loan with us the club had a clear enough indication from the player to bid twice despite Chelsea's very clear refusal to sell him to anyone. None of that particularly matters because Chelsea refused to sell him!

A cynic might suggest the club bid for him knowing full well that Chelsea wouldn't accept it, so they could say they tried.

Anyway, of course he had a choice, plenty of players have publicly forced or tried to force moves through. I don't begrudge him for not doing that, he was always a Chelsea player and they clearly offered him more money. It's basically how these loan deals are supposed to work (ie player goes away, gets experience, comes back a better player and with more value). But it's clearly not the case that he couldn't have done anything to try and get the move if he really wanted to.

 

[BadFish]

Sigh. I give up.

There is no need to be rude, I was only asking you to clarify your point.

 

[BadFish]

A cynic might suggest the club bid for him knowing full well that Chelsea wouldn't accept it, so they could say they tried.

Anyway, of course he had a choice, plenty of players have publicly forced or tried to force moves through. I don't begrudge him for not doing that, he was always a Chelsea player and they clearly offered him more money. It's basically how these loan deals are supposed to work (ie player goes away, gets experience, comes back a better player and with more value). But it's clearly not the case that he couldn't have done anything to try and get the move if he really wanted to.

A cynic might also suggest that offering a low figure for a player of his potential would feed into your theory.

It win, win, I suppose; the club had a crack, and we fans who still believe in Brian Clough's fairies can pretend that he really wanted to play for us all along. Our hearts can skip a beat when he doesn't celebrate scoring against us, so strong was our forbidden love.

 

[NorthstandRacoon]

Sanchez, Cucu, Caicedo, are proper c**ts. Despise their treatment of us, deserve all they get. Chelsea in general, massive c**ts. Vile club.

 

[Beanstalk]

A cynic might suggest the club bid for him knowing full well that Chelsea wouldn't accept it, so they could say they tried.

Anyway, of course he had a choice, plenty of players have publicly forced or tried to force moves through. I don't begrudge him for not doing that, he was always a Chelsea player and they clearly offered him more money. It's basically how these loan deals are supposed to work. But it's clearly not the case that he couldn't have done anything to try and get the move if he really wanted to.

Obviously he could have thrown his toys out of the pram, and perhaps he would've done if he hadn't been given the assurances that he'd play at Chelsea, but I also think that we're talking about a different beast when it comes to Chelsea. They have no financial incentive to sell like 90% of other clubs. Unlike a Caicedo, I doubt they would've been careful to reintroduce him to the starting XI as to protect his financial value. He would've languished out of the team and probably ruined his career instead.

To get back on topic. Sanchez is a bellend. Can't see if people are talking about him overcelebrating at the away end when the final whistle went on this? Thought it was pretty pathetic.

 

[herecomesaregular]

Sanchez is a massive twunt, this was evident when sat next to him and Murray outside a cafe when he was dropped to the bench with us. Whining like a pathetic baby donkey, slagging off RDZ and the club in general. Found it odd since he'd been with us for many years from a youngster, that kind of bitterness. Used to like him as a player for us but now watching him at Chelsea it's evident he really is quite a poor keeper in several aspects. His lack of expression used to seem funny but actually he's just fecking gormless!

 

[Seagull27]

What's your evidence that suggests this?

There was enough in the media to suggest he was keen on the move, including from Andy Naylor. You'd think he'd have got it from somewhere.

He could have forced the move a la Caicedo/Trossard/Sanchez, but maybe he's not that type of person. As it stands, Levi had no choice to make, there was no decision to 'stay' at Brighton.

Colwill "wants to come back" to Brighton, despite Chelsea's promising changes » Chelsea News

www-chelsea--news-co.cdn.ampproject.org

'Brighton put their trust in me' - Levi Colwill says permanent move is possible as he considers Chelsea future after loan spell | Goal.com UK

Levi Colwill says he wants to repay the trust Brighton have shown in him as he prepares to decide his future after a season on loan from Chelsea.

www.goal.com

 

[schmunk]

Some lip readers are suggesting he said "Go home, go back to Brighton" to Dunk.

I Live.

In f***ing.

HASSOCKS!!!

 

[Mackenzie]

Perhaps it is simply insecurity which “prompted” Sanchez’s actions. Maybe he is doubtful of his place at Chelsea and wanted to put on a show for his audience of how committed he is to their cause, even at the expense of alienating himself from his former friends, colleagues and fans. A desperate act for acceptance.

Pathetic but understandable I guess.

 

[The Hermit Kingdom]

He would have been very happy to join us.

Although, he was happier to stay at Chelsea with first-team football and a pay rise.

I suppose we don't know what happened, what was said and how he felt about it.

So we all tell ourselves different stories about it. The result is the same though, he stayed at chelsea.

#freelevi

Come on, let’s be realistic about the relative statures of our two clubs, as Westander says, I never bought into the ‘he would have stayed debate,’ he only ever had eyes for Chelsea, we’re a Premier League club on paper, but drop back down and we’ll revert to relative insignificance on a par with Hull, Preston, Barnsley etc.

 

[Mackenzie]

Come on, let’s be realistic about the relative statures of our two clubs, as Westander says, I never bought into the ‘he would have stayed debate,’ he only ever had eyes for Chelsea, we’re a Premier League club on paper, but drop back down and we’ll revert to relative insignificance on a par with Hull, Preston, Barnsley etc.

Prior to Abramovitch‘s cash they weren’t at the top table of clubs, they seem to be regressing back to those pre-Abramovitch times, not a club on the up.

They remain a bigger club than ours, by a distance, but the gap is steadily closing. Yesterday was an indication of that, they just about held on against a scratch Brighton team ravaged by injury and suspensions.

They could of course turn it around again, they’ve got the financial clout.

 

[Brok]

Prior to Abramovitch‘s cash they weren’t at the top table of clubs, they seem to be regressing back to those pre-Abramovitch times, not a club on the up.

They remain a bigger club than ours, by a distance, but the gap is steadily closing. Yesterday was an indication of that, they just about held on against a scratch Brighton team ravaged by injury and suspensions.

They could of course turn it around again, they’ve got the financial clout.

Financial clown, do you mean?

 

[The Hermit Kingdom]

Prior to Abramovitch‘s cash they weren’t at the top table of clubs, they seem to be regressing back to those pre-Abramovitch times, not a club on the up.

They remain a bigger club than ours, by a distance, but the gap is steadily closing. Yesterday was an indication of that, they just about held on against a scratch Brighton team ravaged by injury and suspensions.

They could of course turn it around again, they’ve got the financial clout.

In a social media age so much of it is driven by ‘brand’ and status, especially for many young footballers imho. Turning up at St George’s Park for an England camp as a BHA, Palace or Brentford player as opposed to global brands like Chelsea, Liverpool etc is I imagine significant for many players, you’ve only got to look at Ivan Toney’s social media disrespect for Brentford on at least two occasions. That said, Colwill did have BHA on his online media for a while.

 

[Wardy's twin]

Yes, his loyalties lie with The Chavs.

they pay his wages.....

 

[Berty23]

We have a value we are prepared to offer for a player. If teams accept it we sign the player and if they don’t then we don’t. This is what happened. Had we offered 200 million then we would have signed him. Therefore both clubs have a point a deal could be done. It wasn’t found.

Anyone who has watched the Sunderland til I die programme has seen the madness of deadline day when people end up paying three times as much as they think they should.

Had he downed tools ala Trossard then I would suggest this means he fails the “no dic7heads” test.

 

[LamieRobertson]

Sigh. I give up.

Promise?