[Albion] Sanchez coming to claim crosses

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Nobby Cybergoat

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If opposing teams get wise to this, they'll be deliberately placing a player in an offside position to stop him from coming and claiming. Then when the resulting goals are disallowed, they'll claim that the blocking player was not interfering with play, won't they Brendan?

The logic of Brendan's tactics here were quite rational. He reasoned that the lino wouldn't flag during the melee of a corner and light touch VAR won't overturn. Where it went wrong is that it was a very rare occasion where there was a lino who watched the game and had the courage of his convictions. Also there was an opposing manager who saw what was happening straight away and got his defenders to clear the 6 yard box.
 






strings

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Feb 19, 2006
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The logic of Brendan's tactics here were quite rational. He reasoned that the lino wouldn't flag during the melee of a corner and light touch VAR won't overturn. Where it went wrong is that it was a very rare occasion where there was a lino who watched the game and had the courage of his convictions. Also there was an opposing manager who saw what was happening straight away and got his defenders to clear the 6 yard box.

My interpretation was much the same. I think that with a different lino on a different day, Leicester's tactics would have worked.
 


martin tyler

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I should think his time in league 2 where as a young 19/20 year old he was peppered with cross after cross against some old school large CF would have prepared him well. Great move for any young keeper. Just like Carl now
 


nwgull

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Jul 25, 2003
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Going back to the Anfield claim, in the replay you can see him wiping out Webster and Burn to get to the ball.

I don't think I've seen the video of that as I'm not sure it was on the highlights. Anyone got a link to it??

Biggest compliment was that Leicester specifically put a man on him to obstruct and hinder him on set pieces. I've no doubt that a decent coach like Roberts will be giving him some appropriately aggressive tactics to counter stuff like that (coz 'keepers rarely get penalised for anything in their own box).
 




Stato

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The logic of Brendan's tactics here were quite rational. He reasoned that the lino wouldn't flag during the melee of a corner and light touch VAR won't overturn. Where it went wrong is that it was a very rare occasion where there was a lino who watched the game and had the courage of his convictions. Also there was an opposing manager who saw what was happening straight away and got his defenders to clear the 6 yard box.

The tactic would actually have worked had Barnes been quick enough in getting himself onside after the block. He can't be offside when the corner is taken and had he got himself back quicker after blocking Sanchez, the goals would have stood. You're right that the lino did his job well. The resulting conversation were all about the keeper's eyeline, because the rules wouldn't have classed him as being in an offside position as a result of performing a blocking role.

The rules about interfering with play need looking at. Firmino's second goal on Saturday wasn't in breach of the current offside rule, but Salah was obviously active and in an offside position when the ball was played to him. Him being in an offside position was key to Cathcart making the interception that gave Firmino the scoring chance, to say, as the current rules do, that he is not interfering because the ball doesn't reach him is not logical.
 


Garry Nelson's Left Foot

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I'm a big fan of his box dominating. It's a hugely important part of goalkeeping. It does mean that he'll make the odd mistake and occasional howler but he'll more than make up for it even if we don't notice as he's cut out the danger.
 


Stat Brother

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The bit I was loud wrong about was my assumption that Bob's playing style of dominating the box would interfere with Dunk 'n' Duffy's playing style of dominating the box.

I had visions of them all clattering into each other leaving the goal wide open - as said loud wrong.
 






BNthree

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Sep 14, 2016
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My son is a goalie and his coaches are always telling him to "boss the box" which includes shouting at the defence a lot and coming out for crosses. At his last feedback session the coaches said something along the lines of obviously he shouldn't be trying to hurt people but should be doing whatever he needs to to catch crosses even if it's crowded.
 






Badger Boy

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Jan 28, 2016
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If only it were that simple.

It is that simple. This form is the continuation of the second half of last season. We aren't scoring many goals, same as then. We aren't conceding many goals, same as then. We can nick games 1-0 because we aren't conceding in every game and with every shot on target. I'm not slagging off Maty Ryan but it is undeniable that Sanchez is in a different league entirely.
 


CheeseRolls

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I think he is very close to being a world class goalkeeper, I think his athleticism, ball skills and distribution are right up there. If there is one area for improvement I actually think he could be a little more consistent about when he decides to come and claim a cross and when he remains on his line. A phenomenal keeper, who we are unlikely to be able to hold on to the way he is playing.
 


BNthree

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It is that simple. This form is the continuation of the second half of last season. We aren't scoring many goals, same as then. We aren't conceding many goals, same as then. We can nick games 1-0 because we aren't conceding in every game and with every shot on target. I'm not slagging off Maty Ryan but it is undeniable that Sanchez is in a different league entirely.

Also think Sanchez in goal gives the defence a certain confidence which is reflected in how they play. It's not just a case of straight up comparing Sanchez vs Ryan stats or performances but also the psychological effect that has on the others in the team.
 




Bodian

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I wonder also whether it's because the opposition have given up trying to play through the middle as Dunk'n'Duffy block/stop everything, so have tried more crosses than against other teams. That is - he has more to claim?
 


Stat Brother

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It is that simple. This form is the continuation of the second half of last season. We aren't scoring many goals, same as then. We aren't conceding many goals, same as then. We can nick games 1-0 because we aren't conceding in every game and with every shot on target. I'm not slagging off Maty Ryan but it is undeniable that Sanchez is in a different league entirely.

Sanchez became #1 before Christmas 2020.
The Albion remained 16th and 17th right through till May.

So no matter how correct the decision is, it's not and never will be "The only difference between bottom half Brighton, and top half Brighton, is Sanchez in goal".
 


highflyer

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Jan 21, 2016
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My heart flutters not at all when the opposition get a corner these days (cunning blocking tactics aside).

Sanchez, Duffy, Dunk. Nobody's going to be beating THEM to a cross!

(while the commentators are burbling on about the 'aerial threat' of Big Dan Burn)
 






Stat Brother

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Not just this, but his positioning and awareness are top notch too

It helps when you're an absolute unit of a man who appears to be rather nimble.

We do need to enjoy his presence with us as irrespective how good we get, he'll always be too good for us.
 


b.w.2.

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Jan 8, 2004
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It is that simple. This form is the continuation of the second half of last season. We aren't scoring many goals, same as then. We aren't conceding many goals, same as then. We can nick games 1-0 because we aren't conceding in every game and with every shot on target. I'm not slagging off Maty Ryan but it is undeniable that Sanchez is in a different league entirely.

No it isn’t. If we score more, we win/draw more


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