Sami Hyypia

[Ecosse Exile]

Nathan Jones fits that description perfectly!

He does, unfortunately, and I would guess that will depend on how highly regarded he is among the players and upper management at the club, I hope not, but who knows!

I did mean to add, I don't believe having experience of managing in the championship before will be seen as anything more than a bonus, it won't be high on the list of priorities at all.

 

[strand]

The real success behind him and that team was Lewandowski who took all the training sessions and had to appear at all the press conferences with him.
NO THANKS !!!!!

Absolutely not true. He not only took the training sessions but also participated in them in a way that not many managers do. I think last year Leverkusen's sporting director Rudi Völler (you might have heard of him) said that Hyypiä looks so good in training that he could still play in Bundesliga. He also took all the press conferences last season and spoke fluent German. How many British managers would even bother trying to learn German, were they to become managers there?

I have no idea how good he is but the team he managed before he got sacked ended up 4th, in a division where the top end are just as good if not better than the Premier League, and the team are in the Champion's League next season. Not sure we can really be aiming much higher tbh. This is second division Brighton we are talking about not some really big and desirable team. We also have a budget problem it appears.

I'm a big fan of Hyypiä, but I think it's in a way a bit early to call him a "bundesliga level manager". He earned the job at Leverkusen through a passing lane, he was a captain for years, interested in coaching and the chance just opened up in 2012. Normally a manager has to start lower, but some ex-players can get this fast route. This doesn't mean automatically that he's qualified to run a team on that level, but I think he proved that he is, despite being sacked. And honestly, Championship is not Bundesliga...

Were caught between a rock and a hard place. Yes we have a fantastic ground and training facilities but any manager who doesn't have experience of the Championship (i.e. any foreign manager) will take six months to adjust and will then want to spend big in January to become promotable. But we haven't got the dosh for players so is the only realistic route the Burnley, Hull , Palarse route where a team is built around solid British yeoman who will give 110% every game for a British manager?

Haha, are British players only able to give 110% when playing for a British manager? Sounds ridiculous, but could explain the somewhat weak quality of British players in the near history. British players should leave their comfort zone more and also go play outside of England, to Germany, France, Netherlands, Spain, Italy... Hell, even Russia, their league is getting very good too. I always found it strange how English players are happy at Doncaster when they could just as well have a chance of playing Champions League football if they took their arse off the coach and traveled to for example Austria or Belgium. I guess it's the mythical image of the Premier League, but that image is outdated. Europe is full of great leagues, and the English Premier League is just one of them. I'd say it's definitely not the best league, and not even the most enjoyable to watch from a neutral spectator's point of view. I understand it's a dream for English players, but if the chance doesn't open up, they should sometimes try going abroad instead of getting stuck in League 1.

 

[Ecosse Exile]

Whist I agree with some of this I feel the appointment needs to be a bit more short term that that.

Yes the academy is up and running as of next month but we haven't suddenly got an influx of quality youth players just because it's opened. It will take a few years to get the pool of talent required to have a number knocking on the first team door. I think success on the pitch will outweigh the need for them to have great academy involvement at this stage.

I know what you are saying, and while we all crave success on the pitch, the appointment of Oscar Garcia, less than a year ago suggests that Bloom may well be looking more long term, he said he wants the club to be able to support itself, and sees the youth academy as a main part of this.

Like I said Garcia wasn't sacked, if he hadn't left he would still be our manager and we would have found a way to work through the communication problems. So nothing has changed, we are still looking to progress along the same route. This is all just my opinion of course.

 

[sydney]

Exactly, we need an English manager who knows what is needed to get promotion and a strong British spine in the team and cut the flimsy foreigners to a minimum, we've had enough of sick notes like Vincente, Orlandi & Agustien ripping us off

i am still prepared to give agustien a fair go......he obviously thought he was gonna piss it into the starting 11 but was kept out by andrews and a half fit orlandi ... the guy is obviously class so i'm prepared to wait on him.........the piss poor ,gutless performances that we have dished up in the not too distant past need to be banished to the past.......ONWARDS AND UPWARDS GROW SOME FARKIN'BALLS...!!!

 

[blockhseagull]

I know what you are saying, and while we all crave success on the pitch, the appointment of Oscar Garcia, less than a year ago suggests that Bloom may well be looking more long term, he said he wants the club to be able to support itself, and sees the youth academy as a main part of this.

Like I said Garcia wasn't sacked, if he hadn't left he would still be our manager and we would have found a way to work through the communication problems. So nothing has changed, we are still looking to progress along the same route. This is all just my opinion of course.

Very true,

I think the club need to make an appointment that suits the best needs of the team on the pitch at the moment. I agree that they need one eye on the academy and certainly a manager who is willing to play young players if they are good enough, this is where Oscar fitted the bill.

 

[sydney]

Absolutely not true. He not only took the training sessions but also participated in them in a way that not many managers do. I think last year Leverkusen's sporting director Rudi Völler (you might have heard of him) said that Hyypiä looks so good in training that he could still play in Bundesliga. He also took all the press conferences last season and spoke fluent German. How many British managers would even bother trying to learn German, were they to become managers there?



I'm a big fan of Hyypiä, but I think it's in a way a bit early to call him a "bundesliga level manager". He earned the job at Leverkusen through a passing lane, he was a captain for years, interested in coaching and the chance just opened up in 2012. Normally a manager has to start lower, but some ex-players can get this fast route. This doesn't mean automatically that he's qualified to run a team on that level, but I think he proved that he is, despite being sacked. And honestly, Championship is not Bundesliga...



Haha, are British players only able to give 110% when playing for a British manager? Sounds ridiculous, but could explain the somewhat weak quality of British players in the near history. British players should leave their comfort zone more and also go play outside of England, to Germany, France, Netherlands, Spain, Italy... Hell, even Russia, their league is getting very good too. I always found it strange how English players are happy at Doncaster when they could just as well have a chance of playing Champions League football if they took their arse off the coach and traveled to for example Austria or Belgium. I guess it's the mythical image of the Premier League, but that image is outdated. Europe is full of great leagues, and the English Premier League is just one of them. I'd say it's definitely not the best league, and not even the most enjoyable to watch from a neutral spectator's point of view. I understand it's a dream for English players, but if the chance doesn't open up, they should sometimes try going abroad instead of getting stuck in League 1.

i think you will find it all comes down to money mate.oh and if anyone on the continent is interested......also are you married , do you realise how thick most english birds are ...?? homesick ,marks and spencers,mum does my washing etc.etc.

 

[chaileyjem]

any manager who doesn't have experience of the Championship (i.e. any foreign manager) will take six months to adjust and will then want to spend big in January to become promotable.

A certain club who were promoted in 2012/13 lost their manager 2 months into the season, didn't spend big in the January transfer window of 2013 and inexplicably were still promoted at the end of the season.
Another club in 2013/14 changed their manager 2 months into their season , went on a fantastic run of form, nearly made the top 2 and sadly ended up defeating us 4 times last year. This managers previous experience of the Championship was a disaster.
We hired a manager with no experience of the Championship who started relatively late close season, didn't spend big in either transfer window relying on loanees and still made the play offs. He ended up pushing out on the final day an English manager who had romped through the Championship with his previous side only a few years before and spent big in the transfer windows yet still finished 7th.

is there really a formula to all of this ?

 

[Mannie]

What does 'knows the Championship' even mean?

It pops up on almost every managerial appointment thread as a quality that some believe is essential in our next manager but no-one seems able to quantify what it actually means.

The Championship is just like any other league, there's no special quality required to get promoted out if it other than the time-honoured 'beat everyone else' approach.

Admittedly, there are a lot of tough teams involved in the division, but managing within the Championship previously is unlikely to give you any extra insight that you wouldn't get through thorough research (which we can probably assume most clubs/managers now do as a matter of course).

What I'm trying to say is that a decent manager will be a success regardless of the league you put them in, football doesn't need to be any more complicated than beating the team that's in front of you on any given Saturday.

Also, I'd be happy with Hyypia.

Couldn't agree more - Hyypia played well in the Prem'. He knows how to organise - none of this 'needs to know the championship' nonsense - we need a coach who understands how to link the midfield with more than the solitary singleton up front - not all come to a screaming halt the moment they reach the oppositions box.

 

[James Bond's body double]

Has it all gone quiet because the boys are sunning themselves in the Portugal ?

 

[T soprano]

Has it all gone quiet because the boys are sunning themselves in the Portugal ?

Heard they've gone to Portugal to interview Luis Figo

 

[Bladders]

Heard they've gone to Portugal to interview Luis Figo

Hughtons assistant?

 

[T soprano]

Hughtons assistant?

Possibly, Hughton still in the running

 

[pornomagboy]

Heard they've gone to Portugal to interview Luis Figo

Lol

 

[James Bond's body double]

Heard they've gone to Portugal to interview Luis Figo

Brilliant

 

[Weststander]

Couldn't agree more - Hyypia played well in the Prem'. He knows how to organise - none of this 'needs to know the championship' nonsense - we need a coach who understands how to link the midfield with more than the solitary singleton up front - not all come to a screaming halt the moment they reach the oppositions box.

Or even stray, albeit very sloooooowwwwwly, into the opposition's half.

 

[portslade seagull]

Has the Hyypia speculation finished now then seeing as he was meant to be announced today according to most on this thread

 

[gully1984]

Bored of speculation. All I want to do is deal in the facts.