[Albion] Sam Jewell

[mejonaNO12 aka riskit]

has another club lost some many staff , to another club in such a short period of time

Wimbledon lost a lot to MK Dons once.

 

[Sid and the Sharknados]

I'm way beyond worrying about which team 'poaches' BHAFC staff but, to me, it makes a lot of sense why Chelsea ends up being their next destination:

1) To a lot of people Brighton are the envy of the footballing world, because we've got SO much right in recent years – and other clubs want to replicate that.
2) The location means that it's an easy commute, as opposed to a house move and all the upheaval that goes with it. Yes, more people work at home now (non-playing staff, obvs), but I get the impression you would be expected to get into the training ground at the drop of a hat.
3) The personnel that have gone before would've worked with a lot of the staff, so it's not beyond the realms of possibility that Chelsea Todd and co would work off recommendations from Ex Albion players, to get others and Losestanley to get the likes of Sam Jewell.
4) Spite. Potter didn't work out and ended up looking a bit of an embarrassment for Chelsea Todd. Cucurella, you could argue, has hardly set the world alight. So for 'revenge' Chelsea bods wave wads of cash in the face of Albion employees to get them to join the dark side.

There are probably others but what it tells me is that there's no point worrying about it because it's all out of our control. Where I think the club gets it right is a) having the right succession plan (or, at least, potential replacements identified in advance) and b) multiple people working across the whole process, which means that even if one person leaves, someone else knows exactly what the state of play is with a potential transfer target, scout, agent or rival club employee.

What are your reasons for moving to Chelsea?

 

[mejonaNO12 aka riskit]

That's all well and good Bozza but the fact is that he's still getting paid for 9 months for doing nothing, and presumably we're going to have to hire a replacement to cover the period when Jewell is non-productive so it's a lose, lose for the club. We're unlikely ever to become a top six club unless we seriously toughen up in this scenario and pay enough to keep our top talent.

"Pay as much as Chelsea" should never be the answer.

We have proven it's the system, not just the personnel that we have right. All the time that that is the case, you don't need to try and buy the best pegs......you just make sure you have the right.......holes? Didn't really know how to finish that analogy.

 

[Hamilton]

That's all well and good Bozza but the fact is that he's still getting paid for 9 months for doing nothing, and presumably we're going to have to hire a replacement to cover the period when Jewell is non-productive so it's a lose, lose for the club. We're unlikely ever to become a top six club unless we seriously toughen up in this scenario and pay enough to keep our top talent.

I think it's more that we are honouring his contract and in 9 months the likelihood is that the data modelling will have moved on and he'll be that little bit further behind.

I've no beef with him. His heart won't be in it. He knows he's leaving a good employer to go and work for a mercenary who just wants to promise the earth, pay a big salary.

He can't really get started with that lot until almost the middle of next season.

I imagine Chelsea are now scratching their heads and wondering if Tony will let them pay up on the remainder of his contract. Tony and PBOBE may have politely said "no" leaving Chelsea standing with their dicks in the wind yet again.

 

[Bald Head]

Sick to the back teeth with Chelsea, bunch of utter C@#TS THE LOT OF THEM.

 

[A mex eyecan]

I think it's more that we are honouring his contract and in 9 months the likelihood is that the data modelling will have moved on and he'll be that little bit further behind.

I've no beef with him. His heart won't be in it. He knows he's leaving a good employer to go and work for a mercenary who just wants to promise the earth, pay a big salary.

He can't really get started with that lot until almost the middle of next season.

I imagine Chelsea are now scratching their heads and wondering if Tony will let them pay up on the remainder of his contract. Tony and PBOBE may have politely said "no" leaving Chelsea standing with their dicks in the wind yet again.

kinda nice to think of them looking like the dumb nuts that they are. Bit like the rich kid in the street who has no mates but stands watching enviously all the poor kids having a whale of a time day after day after day.

 

[dazzer6666]

That's all well and good Bozza but the fact is that he's still getting paid for 9 months for doing nothing, and presumably we're going to have to hire a replacement to cover the period when Jewell is non-productive so it's a lose, lose for the club. We're unlikely ever to become a top six club unless we seriously toughen up in this scenario and pay enough to keep our top talent.

We choose to put him on gardening leave, not him. We could let him go straight away but of course he's then free to start his new job. Club have deemed it better to have him sit on his hands for several months rather than immediately start work on poaching current Albion targets. Makes total sense and is perfectly normal

 

[dwayne]

Really can't see him serving 9 months gardening leave !! Football people never do. How long did ashworth serve in the end ?

Chelsea will buy out his contract. Hopefully we can stall them as long as possible though.

 

[dazzer6666]

I think it's more that we are honouring his contract and in 9 months the likelihood is that the data modelling will have moved on and he'll be that little bit further behind.

I've no beef with him. His heart won't be in it. He knows he's leaving a good employer to go and work for a mercenary who just wants to promise the earth, pay a big salary.

He can't really get started with that lot until almost the middle of next season.

I imagine Chelsea are now scratching their heads and wondering if Tony will let them pay up on the remainder of his contract. Tony and PBOBE may have politely said "no" leaving Chelsea standing with their dicks in the wind yet again.

No - we're forcing him to see out his notice period

 

[Bozza]

We're not going to match Chelsea-type salaries for either players or any other staff, full stop.

No-one would sign such a contract, and even if they did any decent HR lawyer would tear it to shreds.

...and whether his notice period is one month, six months, a year or three years, the minute he says "I'm going to leave to go to Chelsea" we want him as far away from all our internal transfer work as possible.

 

[albionalex]

Yes this. And 'oh he learnt Spanish'. Well bloody bully for he. I mean come on.

As someone who has also learnt Spanish, I guarantee you that Jewell was not negotiating these deals by himself. He would have had a translator with him.

 

[Hamilton]

No - we're forcing him to see out his notice period

True. That's what I meant but worded it wrongly.

 

[chaileyjem]

That's all well and good Bozza but the fact is that he's still getting paid for 9 months for doing nothing,

Its very unlikely it will last that long.

Really can't see him serving 9 months gardening leave !! Football people never do. How long did ashworth serve in the end ?

Chelsea will buy out his contract. Hopefully we can stall them as long as possible though.

Yep. Agreed. Ashworth was three months i think before Newcastle/Albion agreed an exit fee/contract buy out. Not much gardening to be done at this time of year anyway.

 

[dazzer6666]

Really can't see him serving 9 months gardening leave !! Football people never do. How long did ashworth serve in the end ?

Chelsea will buy out his contract. Hopefully we can stall them as long as possible though.

Peanuts to them in the great scheme of things.......

 

[Hiheidi]

Peanuts to them in the great scheme of things.......

But haven't the got to sell players before the end of June to comply with this season's FFP?

 

[dazzer6666]

But haven't the got to sell players before the end of June to comply with this season's FFP?

Yes, but a few months salary for a backroom staff won't move any dials in that respect

 

[Hiheidi]

Yes, but a few months salary for a backroom staff won't move any dials in that respect

But paying say £1 million compensation would, and wouldn't help their case if they were in breach, and had kept spending (although I think that ship has already sailed).

 

[Bozza]

Peanuts to them in the great scheme of things.......

I'd guess Sam Jewell doesn't have a release clause, primarily because "Brighton don't do release clauses".

Buying him out of his notice period certainly won't be as simple as Chelsea stumping up nine months' pay - as you say it's pocket change to them.

I'd imagine the Albion won't entertain a fee currently - they'll want our internal transfer work to continue for a few months so Jewell's knowledge becomes stale and less valuable and then, a few months down the line, a deal will be struck for him to start at Chelsea ahead of November.

 

[Hiheidi]

I'd imagine the Albion won't entertain a fee currently - they'll want our internal transfer work to continue for a few months so Jewell's knowledge becomes stale and less valuable and then, a few months down the line, a deal will be struck for him to start at Chelsea ahead of November.

Hopefully they learnt that lesson when they let Winstanley move immediately, and he proceeded to move in for Datro Fofana.

 

[dazzer6666]

I'd guess Sam Jewell doesn't have a release clause, primarily because "Brighton don't do release clauses".

Buying him out of his notice period certainly won't be as simple as Chelsea stumping up nine months' pay - as you say it's pocket change to them.

I'd imagine the Albion won't entertain a fee currently - they'll want our internal transfer work to continue for a few months so Jewell's knowledge becomes stale and less valuable and then, a few months down the line, a deal will be struck for him to start at Chelsea ahead of November.

Agreed - EL would normally dictate we can hold him to his notice period regardless, so we might do that. Hope so.