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Sam Allardyce New England Manager
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joeinbrighton
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I'm not sure that comparison works. He is used to getting the best out of limited groups of players, getting them to play above the sum of their parts. He isn't needing to fire fight with England at all as he has the opposite problem. Talented players who underachieve when the pressure is on as a group who seem to freeze mentally. That's not to say that Allardyce isn't capable of sorting that, but it is a different scenario to the one he has mainly been faced with as a manager up to now.
Dolph Ins
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If he had been appointed Brighton manager I would be gutted.
However I think the England manager should be English and Big Sam has as good a chance as anyone else to get the best out of the England player conundrum.
However I think the England manager should be English and Big Sam has as good a chance as anyone else to get the best out of the England player conundrum.
surrey jim
Not in Surrey
And ensured they all got a good dinner
I do not see him as a international manger at all. Very poor appointment who has won bugger all. A fighter and nothing more. You need a bit more class than that when playing on the bigger stage.
portslade seagull
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One thing he will do is make us hard to beat ... ( now watch us lose against Slovakia )
Kaiser_Soze
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- Apr 14, 2008
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What's he meant to win with the teams he's managed??
What managers would you have preferred for the job? That had "won something"?
I wish him well. We've tried just about every other type of coach, perhaps he'll surprise us (in a good way).
That's exactly my point. He has only managed lesser teams because that about his limit. That says all you know. Even someone like Moyes managed to attract a bigger club to manage.
As for the next manager i have no idea. Not my job. The 3 candidates put forward were all poor.
Kaiser_Soze
Who is Kaiser Soze??
- Apr 14, 2008
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Everything is relative. He has been very successful with the clubs he managed. He got Bolton into Europe. BOLTON!
He built the foundation's Bilic at West Ham. He turned Sunderland around and kept them up.
He gets teams organised and playing a certain system. Hodgson had no idea of his preferred formation let alone first 11 going into this Euros.
Capello and Sven had won club trophies. Didn't do us any favours though did it. The FA just leaked money while they both trousered £6 million a year.
You say you want a manager that was won something yet can't even come up with any candidates because "it's not your job". How about piping down and just seeing how Sam gets on if you aren't able to offer even one other candidate.
MF'84
A load of Bolanos
With our current crop of players I think Big Sam will get more out of them than anybody else would that was in the frame. He will reinstall the pride and passion of wearing the three lions that has been severely lacking for many years.
I don't mind if we don't win any tournaments as long as I can see that the players gave everything they've got and played like it really meant something - Sam will make that happen.
Really looking forward to seeing how he can transform the team.
I don't mind if we don't win any tournaments as long as I can see that the players gave everything they've got and played like it really meant something - Sam will make that happen.
Really looking forward to seeing how he can transform the team.
Easy 10
Brain dead MUG SHEEP
Exactly. Allardyce is known for his meticulous preparation. He certainly would not have been out on a cuffing BOAT TRIP in Paris while Iceland (only our potential opponents) were playing Austria down the road in that final group game.
The sheer snobbery surrounding the Allardyce appointment from some people is astonishing. Considering the series of tinpot basketcase clubs he's been in charge of in the PL, a win ratio of 33% and zero relegations deserves respect. But no, lets get some random Carlos Fandango in, who won a Copa America once, or something. Yeah THAT'LL work.
Easy 10
Brain dead MUG SHEEP
Top post. I agree with every word.
A manager that the Top 10 clubs in England would be Meh over.
Not ideal.
Not ideal.
joeinbrighton
New member
Oh come on, that is such a red herring. In this day and age, coaching staff can get access to all manner of TV and video reruns of matches that would have pointed out Iceland's strengths on set plays. England's failure to deal with those in the Iceland match had precisely nothing to do with Hodgson and Lewington being on a boat at the time Iceland played Austria.
yxee
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Fine with that. He is a good manager and is respected by the players. I don't expect him to do much more with that bunch than Hodgeson did mind.
MF'84
A load of Bolanos
We would not have lost to Iceland...!
Pretty pink fairy
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