safe standing or all seater

[theyellowdinosaur]

Aston Villa are testing it next year (i think)

 

[brightn'ove]

I would pick safe standing as there would be less for maintenance as there would be fewer seats to fix etc. Plus the extra capacity is a great bonus.

forgive me if i am wrong, but doesnt 'safe standing' mean that all standing positions are also fitted with seats?

why would the capacity increase or decrease? it would be the same.

 

[Mackenzie]

I like standing at football matches, bring back the terraces.

 

[countryman]

forgive me if i am wrong, but doesnt 'safe standing' mean that all standing positions are also fitted with seats?

why would the capacity increase or decrease? it would be the same.

That does sort of defeat the point of safe standing if there is seats.

And would we be able to keep the comfy seats?

 

[bn1&bn3 Albion]

North stand safe standing the rest can be seated..

 

[bn1&bn3 Albion]

forgive me if i am wrong, but doesnt 'safe standing' mean that all standing positions are also fitted with seats?

why would the capacity increase or decrease? it would be the same.

I'm guessing when its standing people aren't given a seat, so its 2 people to 1.5 seats.

 

[yxee]

forgive me if i am wrong, but doesnt 'safe standing' mean that all standing positions are also fitted with seats?

why would the capacity increase or decrease? it would be the same.

1 row of seats == 2 rows of standing, I think there would be two "steps" per row

capacity could potentially double although the real increase will be less depending on the slope/safety regulations

 

[father_and_son]

Safe standing is where there are no seats, but there is a guard rail in front of each row or section to prevent surges and allow everyone to stay on their feet and not get pushed or crushed.

Done effectively it allows somewhere between 1.5 and 2.0 times the people in the same area as seating depending on whether you retain the option to replace the seats for certain matches.

Personally I would convert the lower levels of each end and the corners of *every* stadium into safe standing and leave the long side stands (E and W for us) as seating for corporate, family, disabled and just lazy. (With appropriate rule changes for all levels of competition to allow this)

For the next few years I'd be consigned to the seating, but once my little boy was tall enough [or is allowed the appropriately sized, corporate sponsored, crate to stand on] I'd want to be standing just like the good old days.

 

[8ace]

forgive me if i am wrong, but doesnt 'safe standing' mean that all standing positions are also fitted with seats?

why would the capacity increase or decrease? it would be the same.

There are two types of safe standing, as above in your photo where it's one person standing to one seat and the other type like at Dortmund where they actually take the seats out. (Where is your photo btw?)

I've not been to a game in Germany (would like to one day!) but as I understand it there are basically two types of terrace:

1. the red ones in the pictures where you stand in an allocated space, also here at Werder Bremen

With this you presumably don't get any increase in capacity when used in the stand configuration?


2. A more conventional terrace like at Borussia Dortmund where seats are installed for international matches:

Here you get more capacity when using it for standing but it's a faff to convert it to seats - however when would we need to do that reallistically?

Is this more or less the situation over there?