[Football] Safe standing in the North stand next season ....?

[JonnyComeEarly]

I see even bournemouth have implemented safe standing now along with a host of other PL grounds in home and away ends.

There was talk of it recently. Any chance we may actually have a chance now with our recently released healthy looking accounts?

It would be nice to cater for all fans, the ones that love to sit and maybe one side of the ground (North?) for the ones that love to stand

 

[Nicks]

No chance as the club held a survey and everyone that doesn't go in the North Stand voted no to it

 

[peterward]

I see even bournemouth have implemented safe standing now along with a host of other PL grounds in home and away ends.

There was talk of it recently. Any chance we may actually have a chance now with our recently released healthy looking accounts?

It would be nice to cater for all fans, the ones that love to sit and maybe one side of the ground (North?) for the ones that love to stand

Safe standing, no safe standing.

No difference in North, we're all standing anyway.

 

[HeaviestTed]

Can’t we just have a standing area without this safe standing nonsense? There are no barriers so i don’t see what the problem is.

 

[Peacehaven Wild Kids]

You lot enjoy, but I’m out. After tonight my old ‘hat rack’ is killing me!

 

[JonnyComeEarly]

No chance as the club held a survey and everyone that doesn't go in the North Stand voted no to it

That's sort of the point though

North stand im sure majority would want it. South, East and West stands wouldnt which is totally fair, hence only safe standing put into the North?

 

[Peacehaven Wild Kids]

No chance as the club held a survey and everyone that doesn't go in the North Stand voted no to it

Not everyone. I’m an East Stander so nowadays it’s no longer for me (last night was fine but I needed half hour in a hot bath when I got in!)

However I’ll always vote for it 100% as I know a lot of people that want it.

 

[Thunder Bolt]

Safe standing, no safe standing.

No difference in North, we're all standing anyway.

No, we’re not.

 

[Insel affe]

No, we’re not.

True. never mind sitting, there have been several times this season, when I could have happily lied down and dozed off.

 

[BN41Albion]

Thing is, everyone who wants to stands in the North anyway - about 3/4ths of the stand. So...

 

[PascalGroß Tips]

Thing is, everyone who wants to stands in the North anyway - about 3/4ths of the stand. So...

But the idea is to make the standing that those do in the North 'safe'.

By the end of this season I will have gone to 16/19 aways, standing every game. For me, I much prefer it when I've been in a 'safe' standing area ... not just from the safety point of view of possibly going over or hitting the seats in front when we score (which I've done on a couple of occasions and ended up with gashed shins) ... but just being able to lean/rest against the barrier. Maybe that's of more benefit to the slightly older generation - it is for me anyway. I tend to stand before the game and also during half time as I don't like being squashed against people sat either side of me (we don't exactly get a lot of space to sit) ... so sometimes I might turn around and lean against the rail.

What I don't hear about is any real or legitimate reason for not having safe standing. All I hear is, "well we stand anyway'.

 

[BRIGHT ON Q]

It's not just the North, surely it would be put in the south Away end too?

 

[Commander]

But who will pay for it? Where will the money come from for it?

Etc etc.

The survey was final- the majority of people who wouldn't ever use it in a stand they'd never go in said they weren't bothered about it, so the people that would use it in the stand that they regularly go in were outvoted. Democracy rules.

 

[Brighton Rocker]

No chance the Club will go for this. As others have said those in the North Stand stand if they want and I don’t believe there is a safety issue. If there had been injuries in the North Stan the Safety Committee would have made the Club clamp down on it. European matches have to be all seater so, only difference would be a rail which would be handy to lean on.

 

[portlock seagull]

Play European football v spend on pointless unnecessary stand reconfiguration….hmmm?

 

[portlock seagull]

But the idea is to make the standing that those do in the North 'safe'.

By the end of this season I will have gone to 16/19 aways, standing every game. For me, I much prefer it when I've been in a 'safe' standing area ... not just from the safety point of view of possibly going over or hitting the seats in front when we score (which I've done on a couple of occasions and ended up with gashed shins) ... but just being able to lean/rest against the barrier. Maybe that's of more benefit to the slightly older generation - it is for me anyway. I tend to stand before the game and also during half time as I don't like being squashed against people sat either side of me (we don't exactly get a lot of space to sit) ... so sometimes I might turn around and lean against the rail.

What I don't hear about is any real or legitimate reason for not having safe standing. All I hear is, "well we stand anyway'.

You’ve a valid point. We’ve lost hundreds over the years in the North, casualties of standing that’s unsafe. If only a rail bar was added, it would have prevented this massacre

 

[GT49er]

You’ve a valid point. We’ve lost hundreds over the years in the North, casualties of standing that’s unsafe. If only a rail bar was added, it would have prevented this massacre

Why the sarcasm? There is no good reason for not installing them (the club would still have change from £122M), and you haven't provided one. And, to be practical about it, the shin high 'barrier' that is the back of the seat in front is a potential hazard - I felt safer on a plain old fashioned terrace with just a straightforward step down, nothing to trip over.
From answers given by PB at fans' forum events though, I get the feeling he'd rather allow bottle tops and flasks before introducing safe standing!

 

[rippleman]

But the idea is to make the standing that those do in the North 'safe'.

By the end of this season I will have gone to 16/19 aways, standing every game. For me, I much prefer it when I've been in a 'safe' standing area ... not just from the safety point of view of possibly going over or hitting the seats in front when we score (which I've done on a couple of occasions and ended up with gashed shins) ... but just being able to lean/rest against the barrier. Maybe that's of more benefit to the slightly older generation - it is for me anyway. I tend to stand before the game and also during half time as I don't like being squashed against people sat either side of me (we don't exactly get a lot of space to sit) ... so sometimes I might turn around and lean against the rail.

What I don't hear about is any real or legitimate reason for not having safe standing. All I hear is, "well we stand anyway'.

You have to take account of NS STHs who do not wish / are unable to stand (I believe TB is one). You cannot start force-moving STHs who have had their NS seats since Amex day 1.

Maybe Barber shouldn't have been so quick to dismiss safe standing in the early days of the Amex when perhaps it would have been easier to accommodate a safe standing area. ("This club will never support the safe standing campaign" were his words IIRC).

If we start force-moving some longstanding fans to accommodate another group of fans then we are no better than them up the road. And we are.

 

[PascalGroß Tips]

You’ve a valid point. We’ve lost hundreds over the years in the North, casualties of standing that’s unsafe. If only a rail bar was added, it would have prevented this massacre

Oh bore off ...

 

[Tom Hark Preston Park]

If there was a vote then it should have

You have to take account of NS STHs who do not wish / are unable to stand (I believe TB is one). You cannot start force-moving STHs who have had their NS seats since Amex day 1.

Maybe Barber shouldn't have been so quick to dismiss safe standing in the early days of the Amex when perhaps it would have been easier to accommodate a safe standing area. ("This club will never support the safe standing campaign" were his words IIRC).

If we start force-moving some longstanding fans to accommodate another group of fans then we are no better than them up the road. And we are.

Of course PBOBE is not pro safe-standing. It doesn't generate revenue.

Plus there seems to be no real appetite for it generally