[News] Ryan Air Racist

[Thunder Bolt]

I don’t wish to make excuses for Ryanair and I’ve only watched the video once but it doesn’t seem clear how much of the racist language the crew actually hear. I’m not sure they hear enough to be sure they can kick him off. Plus the crew member is possibly not English and may not understand the muffled ramblings of a racist old tosser.

Credit to the guy in the row behind, not so much to the person filming.

As it's a police matter, the filming is valuable evidence.

 

[Wellesley]

Hard to believe such scumbag racist people still exist. His only possible defence is that, as he appears, he his mentally very, very ill.

 

[Weststander]

Pathetic by Ryanair, disgusting in fact.

Their first thoughts and action should've been to get the perpetrator off the flight and arrested, and see to the welfare of the victim.

Luckily, by design as I like to travel out of Gatwick even if it costs more, I've never flown with Ryanair, which going by their poor customer service record is a godsend.

 

[looney]

He's, judging by that footage:both a racist and mental.

Partial footage, how did this kick off?

 

[studio150]

Yes, I appreciate the video is crucial to the police and this possibly wouldn’t even be in the news without it.

But from a moral point of view, whipping out your phone is poor form in a situation like this. I’d like to think I’d speak up if I saw something like this happen rather than film it. It’s similar (but less repulsive) to those people who get their phones out in the aftermath of terrorist attacks.

Could you not film and speak up at the same time?

 

[looney]

Pathetic by Ryanair, disgusting in fact.

Their first thoughts and action should've been to get the perpetrator off the flight and arrested, and see to the welfare of the victim.

How do you know he was the perpetrator when you didn't see it kick of?

 

[Weststander]

As it's a police matter, the filming is valuable evidence.

Independent witnesses will be fine on their own, a film a bonus.

 

[Weststander]

How do you know he was the perpetrator when you didn't see it kick of?

Say you had a row with a stranger, even if they started it, you commit a criminal offence by racist insults. Totally separate to that, they may be committing a criminal offence with the initial disturbance.

Just a scenario, not linked to these events, purely to answer your question.

 

[looney]

Say you had a row with a stranger, even if they started it, you commit a criminal offence by racist insults. Totally separate to that, they may be committing a criminal offence with the initial disturbance.

Just a scenario, not linked to these events, purely to answer your question.

I dont think racial insults in theirself are a crime(I heard him call her a black something or other in a heated moment), this thread like the twitter poster(a political activist) is making a meal of it. Which kicks of the NPC virtue signalling on here.

 

[Weststander]

I dont think racial insults in theirself are a crime(I heard him call her a black something or other in a heated moment), this thread like the twitter poster(a political activist) is making a meal of it. Which kicks of the NPC virtue signalling on here.

You're out on your own on this one.

Have a bit of humanity.

 

[BadFish]

To be fair, we only have that video to go by. It really doesn't look good and some of the language used was way out of line. but... surely we should be waiting until we have the full story, witness statements etc before we dust off the pitch forks?

 

[portlock seagull]

Anyone else thought he sounded like a potty mouthed mr punch?

 

[lawros left foot]

I dont think racial insults in theirself are a crime(I heard him call her a black something or other in a heated moment), this thread like the twitter poster(a political activist) is making a meal of it. Which kicks of the NPC virtue signalling on here.

Racist insults are indeed a crime, it’s called hate speech.
John Terry went to court for it, and was found not guilty.

‘Making a meal of it’?
The racist person has insisted she moves from her seat , because she’s black, he calls her an “Ugly black bitch” and a “Black Bastard”
You must have a very suspect opinion on racial matters yourself, if you consider this to be trivial, as you infer.

 

[GT49er]

Can't see any videos on that link, only stills. What I do wonder, though, is that there is a second picture claiming to show a clearer picture of the racist - but why did he change his shirt between the two photos?

 

[Weststander]

Can't see any videos on that link, only stills. What I do wonder, though, is that there is a second picture claiming to show a clearer picture of the racist - but why did he change his shirt between the two photos?

The BBC UK news website still shows the video, words censored.

 

[portlock seagull]

Racist insults are indeed a crime, it’s called hate speech.
John Terry went to court for it, and was found not guilty.

‘Making a meal of it’?
The racist person has insisted she moves from her seat , because she’s black, he calls her an “Ugly black bitch” and a “Black *******”
You must have a very suspect opinion on racial matters yourself, if you consider this to be trivial, as you infer.

Do you know if it started as a racist incident? Or did it become one as insults were hurled as his anger escalated. Not condoning. But he’s clearly not all there mentally as opposed to just losing it and, for example, had the woman been white, would he still have kicked off because it started as a personal space issue? When people are on the offensive, they tend to use anything to undermine someone’s dignity. Been called fat, old man, bald, white trash etc during my time, laughed it off because it’s not true, just yoof trying to get to you. Cat calling basically. When the original issue was something else e.g. dropping litter, throwing stones at cars etc and they just didn’t like being told off.

 

[Razzoo]

Is this really news? Nasty racist bloke on a plane acts like an arse. Basically a storm in a teacup.

 

[clapham_gull]

To be fair, we only have that video to go by. It really doesn't look good and some of the language used was way out of line. but... surely we should be waiting until we have the full story, witness statements etc before we dust off the pitch forks?

I'll start from interviews.

The man was annoyed in the delay getting to his window seat because the elderly women (who suffered from arthritis) took time to move.

The video tells the rest.