Ernest
Stupid IDIOT
That organised FIGHT at the end reminded me of when I was RECRUITING for my ARS and I only wanted the HARDEST for it
to put this thread to bed every dog has it's day, when England were going proper most of this lot weren't about AND JUST COPY WHAT THEY MISSED OUT ON ,what I would find concerning is the collaboration between these Groups and the Authorities in Moscow, Gorky park in Poland was an insight into Eastern block Hooliganism for England and that's going back a few years
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DR
Have to agree with ppf for once. The scary thing isn't necessarily the nutters, it's that the state at best turn a blind eye and at worst actively encourage and support them. I'd give this tournament a swerve.
found the link to the broader move to re-define, or rediscover the link to what being a Russian man is all about fascinating. A move led and modelled by Putin.. I am just hoping that the need for Russia to shine as a venue for global sporting tournaments, is big enough to drive the apparently recent, increased efforts to clamp down on hooliganism even further.
Don't get me wrong.. I am not supporting that as an admirable thing.. just interesting to see how literally the idea of depicting the leader as a "masculine" role-model has filtered down and appears to have influenced this generation of hooligans..I kind of agree that it's quite an admirable thing they're doing in terms of rejecting alcohol / drugs etc, getting fit and all that. Representing what they feel a man should be. I can get on board with that. I can't get on board with the need for violence being intrinsically linked with masculinity.
Don't get me wrong.. I am not supporting that as an admirable thing.. just interesting to see how literally the idea of depicting the leader as a "masculine" role-model has filtered down and appears to have influenced this generation of hooligans..
Ernest;7806396 I doubt the band will turn up unless they want their drum inserted somewhere that would make their eyes water[/QUOTE said:So not all bad news then.
Made me laugh that they looked up to the English and wanted to emulate them.
Pre ruck routine:
English = 10 pints and a Henry in the boozer.
Russians = crayfish and fruit tea in a sauna.
It certainly won't be a trip for the happy, clappy scarfers and the families and I doubt the band will turn up unless they want their drum inserted somewhere that would make their eyes water
just as an aside, if you've never seen this it's called Battle of the Nations. Very strict rules (no sharp edges and all kit has to be authentic), Russia and Israel regularly do very well as they are all ex forces. From what I saw of some in France I reckon the Russian hooligans are as well.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u3jV93rNils
Our fans should boycott this world Cup. The FA should boycott the one after (or both)