[Politics] Russia invades Ukraine (24/02/2022)

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Eric the meek

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Aug 24, 2020
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Don't apologise ever.

Fascist Russian Infrastructure blowing up is welcome as many times as you like!
One thing 'I read somewhere' is that all these attacks on oil refineries across Russia and perhaps beyond, won't be going unnoticed by the oil refinery workers, and by the local inhabitants. Aside from the hits to infrastructure, they all have an effect on Russians' confidence in their great leader to protect them.
 


Cotton Socks

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Feb 20, 2017
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WTF is that?
A party political broadcast from the only political party in Russia.
Go and vote or your wife will kill you & if she doesn't someone else might. 🤷‍♀️
Has anyone actually seen a vote paper over there to see if there's any other names on it?
Obviously I don't want to get into a conspiracy theory about the authenticity of Russia's democracy, but over here we put an X by a list of names on a piece of paper and shove it in a box. Are there any other names aside from Putin on the ballot paper, or is just literally 'Putin' the only option? Forgive me for sounding naive. It's not something I've thought about 'literally' before.
Please make sure you take note of the sarcasm intended about the authenticity of the election.
 






peterward

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A party political broadcast from the only political party in Russia.
Go and vote or your wife will kill you & if she doesn't someone else might. 🤷‍♀️
Has anyone actually seen a vote paper over there to see if there's any other names on it?
Obviously I don't want to get into a conspiracy theory about the authenticity of Russia's democracy, but over here we put an X by a list of names on a piece of paper and shove it in a box. Are there any other names aside from Putin on the ballot paper, or is just literally 'Putin' the only option? Forgive me for sounding naive. It's not something I've thought about 'literally' before.
Please make sure you take note of the sarcasm intended about the authenticity of the election.
 




Cotton Socks

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I'm not being disingenuous, I genuinely would like to know what is written on the ballot paper. My eldest Jnr learnt to speak a bit of Ukrainian in 2019, I hid his passport this time 2 years ago as he wanted to 'help' in Ukraine & the British government were giving out signals it was fine to do. As much as he loves Ukraine that wasn't going to happen.
 




raymondo

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Apr 26, 2017
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A party political broadcast from the only political party in Russia.
Go and vote or your wife will kill you & if she doesn't someone else might. 🤷‍♀️
Has anyone actually seen a vote paper over there to see if there's any other names on it?
Obviously I don't want to get into a conspiracy theory about the authenticity of Russia's democracy, but over here we put an X by a list of names on a piece of paper and shove it in a box. Are there any other names aside from Putin on the ballot paper, or is just literally 'Putin' the only option? Forgive me for sounding naive. It's not something I've thought about 'literally' before.
Please make sure you take note of the sarcasm intended about the authenticity of the election.
I found this on line. Looks like there are three paid up puppets....but still you get a Kalashnikov in the head if you mistakenly think they're a real option.
 


raymondo

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Don't apologise ever.

Fascist Russian Infrastructure blowing up is welcome as many times as you like!
Also, it strikes me from that video that the attack drones are quite large... I know these refineries are in remote areas, but it's quite a feat if partisans smuggle these in and conceal their storage and launch... not the sort of thing one can hide in the back of a Toyota 4x4 is it🤔 .

That or long distance drones, either way 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼
 






Titanic

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Ukraine launched a massive wave of drone strikes overnight that forced the Crimean Bridge to close and grounded flights from Moscow.

Car traffic was suspended over the bridge connecting Crimea with mainland Russia for half an hour, Russian authorities announced, without explaining why.

Three airports in Moscow were forced to impose flight restrictions after five Ukrainian drones were shot down near the Russian capital, Russia’s state aviation watchdog reported.

Elsewhere, a fireball erupted at an oil refinery in Slavyansk-on-Kuban in Krasnodar Krai, south western Russia, in what is believed to be Ukraine’s sixth drone strike on a Russian oil facility in a week.

The wave of strikes comes on the final day of Russia’s sham presidential election, with Vladimir Putin poised to extend his near-quarter-century rule for six more years.
 


peterward

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Also, it strikes me from that video that the attack drones are quite large... I know these refineries are in remote areas, but it's quite a feat if partisans smuggle these in and conceal their storage and launch... not the sort of thing one can hide in the back of a Toyota 4x4 is it🤔 .

That or long distance drones, either way 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼
Could it be these or similar?

 








peterward

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I guess it could be. The Aussie ad said they have developed a larger one, for a bigger payload - so, maybe 2 metres or more width.
Internet reckons typical diameter of a distillation tower is 14 metres.
Drone looks a bit bigger than that ratio in the video maybe 🤔, but could well be 👍.
If it is the bigger one? That would make sense as its modular and could be smuggled to near a refinery in component form, in a van or similar then assembled there.

Some of these refineries near to or west of Moscow, it could be long range from Ukraine, but still surprising as they make a noise and would be seen/heard and don't fly very quickly, giving plenty of opportunity to shoot down.

But some of the refineries are in central/Eastern Russia nowhere near Ukraine.

For those the Ukrainian drones must surely be launched from within Russia somehow?
 


raymondo

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If it is the bigger one? That would make sense as its modular and could be smuggled to near a refinery in component form, in a van or similar then assembled there.

Some of these refineries near to or west of Moscow, it could be long range from Ukraine, but still surprising as they make a noise and would be seen/heard and don't fly very quickly, giving plenty of opportunity to shoot down.

But some of the refineries are in central/Eastern Russia nowhere near Ukraine.

For those the Ukrainian drones must surely be launched from within Russia somehow?
Yes, that makes sense.
The recent refinery in the video was apparently 900 km from Ukraine, so must be locally launched (or Kazakhstan?).

The Aussie ad said about 37 mph drone speed, IIRC.
 








peterward

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Is nothing sacred? Is there nothing that can't be destroyed by a Ukrainian drone, even on PPED (President Putin Election Day)?


Hmmm I wonder?

Ukraine really fires a drone into Transnistria for the first time destroying a seperatist MIL helicopter?

Or Russia in a false flag, fires drone at its own MIL, blames Ukraine and uses that as a pretext to go into Transnistria to "protect" the Russian speakers and military equipment?

They've been laying ground to go into Transnistria for couple of months, including the puppet state sending a request to Putin to protect them (no doubt initiated by Putin).

All part of the charade?
 


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