We can imagine 100s or 1000s of these small events happening all along the front lines.BBC News - Ukraine war: 'People call us the Ghosts of Bakhmut'
Ukraine war: 'People call us the Ghosts of Bakhmut'
The BBC is given exclusive access to a team of elite Ukrainian snipers on night raids near Bakhmut.www.bbc.co.uk
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[Politics] Russia invades Ukraine (24/02/2022)
- Thread starter vegster
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- Aug 24, 2020
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'Under the last option, Crimea will be within reach of Ukrainian artillery and air attacks. And this means that even without the capture of the peninsula, the Ukrainians could make Crimea impossible for the presence of the Russian military and civilian population.'
I've heard similar elsewhere. Threaten Russian-occupied Crimea from a variety of angles, block their supply routes, and the Russian army withers on the vine. (Or not, as the case may be).
Watch the link below from 14:15 onwards. The link is a month old, so you have the ability to watch it in the light of recent events. There's also an interesting precedent from 1905/1917, with Russians walking off the battlefield, or there's a change of regime.
Thanks, I will listen. I'd somehow thought originally that Crimea would be Ukraine's final target...but it could be the first.
- Aug 24, 2020
- 7,110
My goodness. Putin is at war with the whole world. Now it's Israel, Greece and Turkey / Georgia.
Now civilian merchant seamen from countries other than Ukraine, are facing him down.
This could develop into a landmark moment, in which the world no longer yields to his threats. He and Russia could become irrelevant.
Yes, I was astonished to see it - let's hope they all stay safe.
I'm theorising here
...but if Russia sank a Greek or Turkish civilian ship he'd potentially be at war with NATO? no,??He's unlikely to sink an Israeli ship...
- Apr 13, 2015
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Well, what we all hope is that Putin and his closest sycophants will disappear, and a new more democratic Russia will emerge, one which won't cultivate the extreme and macho "Mother Russia" fervour that Putin reveled in.
Icy Gull
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- Jul 5, 2003
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The escalation with Moscow and Russia now apparently being targeted by Ukrainian drones will not be being welcomed by Nato countries supplying weaponry will it?
That having been said, it’s about time that your average Russian realised that they are not safe in this “special military operation”
That having been said, it’s about time that your average Russian realised that they are not safe in this “special military operation”
Should have happened a long, long time ago.
People have been too afraid of Putin’s rhetoric and threats.
The west should flatten Moscow and vaporise the Kremlin and everyone in it.
f*** Russia, remove it from the face of the earth. Turn it into rubble.
People have been too afraid of Putin’s rhetoric and threats.
The west should flatten Moscow and vaporise the Kremlin and everyone in it.
f*** Russia, remove it from the face of the earth. Turn it into rubble.
I think it'll be fine. Ukraine will be using their own drones (made or purchased) rather than NATO supplied (which would be an issue).
It's good that Russians can smell the war now, in Moscow and Crimea at least.
From the bbc...Ukrainian made
Ukraine drones 'used in Russia'
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A UJ-22 Airborne (UkrJet) reconnaissance droneImage caption: A UJ-22 Airborne (UkrJet) reconnaissance drone
At least three Ukrainian-made drones have been used inside Russia during the war so far, according to analysis by the New York Times.
The drones have been identified as the Bober, the UJ-22 Airborne and a third model with an undetermined name.
The newspaper also says the frequency of these drone attacks have been increasing.
It used a range of sources including flight footage analysis of wreckage found on the ground, as well as conducting interviews with experts, to come to its conclusions.
Kyiv has either not commented on or denied any involvement in such attacks, including the latest in Moscow.
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I think NATO countries will be delighted with how easy it is to strike Moscow and how poor Russian Air defence is.
- Nov 11, 2009
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And just as Ukraine starts to up the ante....I think it'll be fine. Ukraine will be using their own drones (made or purchased) rather than NATO supplied (which would be an issue).
It's good that Russians can smell the war now, in Moscow and Crimea at least.
From the bbc...Ukrainian made
Ukraine drones 'used in Russia'
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Getty ImagesCopyright: Getty Images
A UJ-22 Airborne (UkrJet) reconnaissance droneImage caption: A UJ-22 Airborne (UkrJet) reconnaissance drone
At least three Ukrainian-made drones have been used inside Russia during the war so far, according to analysis by the New York Times.
The drones have been identified as the Bober, the UJ-22 Airborne and a third model with an undetermined name.
The newspaper also says the frequency of these drone attacks have been increasing.
It used a range of sources including flight footage analysis of wreckage found on the ground, as well as conducting interviews with experts, to come to its conclusions.
Kyiv has either not commented on or denied any involvement in such attacks, including the latest in Moscow.
And it'll make it even less likely that Russia will do anything to provoke NATO into this conflict.
- Nov 11, 2009
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I'd guess this is more aimed at curbing Ukraine and assisting Russia.I wonder if the US have had a word during recent import/export discussions
China is already secretly supplying all sorts of technological hardware, including drone components to Russia.