[Politics] Russia invades Ukraine (24/02/2022)

[sparkie]

Come on, they've just got to destroy Putin's Palace near Sochi now.

Raise it to the ground.

 

[Eric the meek]

'Russian Cruise Missiles Were Made Just Months Ago Despite Sanctions' - New York Times

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/12/05/us/politics/cruise-missiles-russia-ukraine-sanctions.html

Not want we wanted to hear but we need to be aware of it.

 

[GT49er]

'Russian Cruise Missiles Were Made Just Months Ago Despite Sanctions' - New York Times

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/12/05/us/politics/cruise-missiles-russia-ukraine-sanctions.html

Not want we wanted to hear but we need to be aware of it.

Yes - but that probably means they aren't building cars, or refigerators or whatever - something that they need anyway. Of course they'll have been diverting resources to producing weapons.

Hopefully we can all get to laugh at how rubbish Lada missiles turned out to be!



(Sadly, even if they're crude and inefficient, they'll still probably kill innocent people)

 

[Binney on acid]

Can anyone on NSC pull any strings, to arrange for me to meet Putin, either at one of his retreats, or at The Kremlin ? I've got COVID.

 

[raymondo]

I took your recommendation and I read the Walter Report.

It seems a lot more informed than I am. I'm still not sure what we are dealing with here, drone or plane, or if it really matters. On the clip, you can obviously hear a loud noise as an aircraft (manned or unmanned) goes past pretty low. A few seconds later you see the explosion light up the sky. Then if you listen very carefully, you can just make out the sound of the aircraft, presumably beginning its return journey, before the shockwave of the explosion is heard.

Whatever it was, full marks to Ukraine, or whoever else was involved, if it wasn't Ukraine. It's a turning point, insofar as the west/US have apparently given the green light to offensive operations within Russia. Judging from past behaviour, the Kremlin will be in shock at the effrontery of an attack on mother Russia.

Thanks, I'll give that another listen with the volume up higher .
I can't imagine the US will give permission for NATO weapons to be fired into Russian territory, but maybe this is a Ukrainian drone so...'go right ahead'... perhaps a little logistics support.

 

[raymondo]

More news from Tendar (I do wonder who some of these ITK guys are...).

 

[jcdenton08]

Can anyone on NSC pull any strings, to arrange for me to meet Putin, either at one of his retreats, or at The Kremlin ? I've got COVID.

Yes I hear he is quite easy to access

 

[raymondo]

Ukraine air defence improves week by week

 

[Eric the meek]

Coverage of the attack on the airbase at Kursk this morning:

'Ukraine drone attack' hits ANOTHER Russian airbase a day after strike damaged two nuclear bombers'

'Ukraine drone attack' hits ANOTHER Russian airbase

Oil tankers are today burning at a Russian airbase near the city of Kursk, around 60 miles from the Ukraine border, just a day after similar blasts at two other bases that were blamed on Kyiv.

www.dailymail.co.uk

There's also pictures from the Ryazan attack.

 

[The Clamp]

 

[The Clamp]

I recommend the above podcast. And the Falklands series.
They reckon the war has got about another year in it.

 

[raymondo]

I took your recommendation and I read the Walter Report.

It seems a lot more informed than I am. I'm still not sure what we are dealing with here, drone or plane, or if it really matters. On the clip, you can obviously hear a loud noise as an aircraft (manned or unmanned) goes past pretty low. A few seconds later you see the explosion light up the sky. Then if you listen very carefully, you can just make out the sound of the aircraft, presumably beginning its return journey, before the shockwave of the explosion is heard.

Whatever it was, full marks to Ukraine, or whoever else was involved, if it wasn't Ukraine. It's a turning point, insofar as the west/US have apparently given the green light to offensive operations within Russia. Judging from past behaviour, the Kremlin will be in shock at the effrontery of an attack on mother Russia.

I've listened properly @Eric the meek and you are probably right ...good listening skills . And, if so, it's likely a reusable drone (not kamikaze), even better

 

[indy3050]

Quote on the BBC website…

Vladimir Putin has said the threat of a nuclear war was rising, but insisted Russia had not "gone mad" and would not use its nuclear weapons first.
The Russian president insisted that his country would only use weapons of mass destruction in response to an attack.

I genuinely hope he means this, he of course knows a nuclear war is a war nobody can win. I for one will sleep a little better as a parent.

What does the spring hold? It’s gonna be a shithouse winter for the poor Ukrainians

 

[The Clamp]

Quote on the BBC website…

Vladimir Putin has said the threat of a nuclear war was rising, but insisted Russia had not "gone mad" and would not use its nuclear weapons first.
The Russian president insisted that his country would only use weapons of mass destruction in response to an attack.

I genuinely hope he means this, he of course knows a nuclear war is a war nobody can win. I for one will sleep a little better as a parent.

What does the spring hold? It’s gonna be a shithouse winter for the poor Ukrainians

He mentions nukes about every 5 weeks. Usually just before an offensive or just after a defeat.

It’s a pattern and he’s done it since February. I’m guessing to try and ward off total humiliation. He’s a yapper.

 

[vegster]

He mentions nukes about every 5 weeks. Usually just before an offensive or just after a defeat.

It’s a pattern and he’s done it since February. I’m guessing to try and ward off total humiliation. He’s a yapper.

I think the Nuclear weapons mentions are the ultimate example of the BCSD theory explained in Wish You Were Here...Putin is a weedy little shortarse remember.

 

[SeagullinExile]

Quote on the BBC website…

Vladimir Putin has said the threat of a nuclear war was rising, but insisted Russia had not "gone mad" and would not use its nuclear weapons first.
The Russian president insisted that his country would only use weapons of mass destruction in response to an attack.

I genuinely hope he means this, he of course knows a nuclear war is a war nobody can win. I for one will sleep a little better as a parent.

What does the spring hold? It’s gonna be a shithouse winter for the poor Ukrainians

Or....He could be building the narrative before launching a false flag in order to blame Ukraine?

 

[raymondo]

 

[raymondo]

 

[raymondo]

Heavy fighting daily in the East

 

[raymondo]