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[Politics] Russia invades Ukraine (24/02/2022)



SeagullinExile

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Sep 10, 2010
6,198
London
Might China step in to stop the idiot? It doesn't help that China and US keep having spats about Taiwan, but China may still exert influence on Putin.

It’s a possibility I guess. But would the madman listen?
 














beorhthelm

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Jul 21, 2003
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Seen this today regarding Xi Jingpin. Not sure if this is BS or something serious happening.

yeah all a bit vague, bubbling around for over a day, without and clear info eitherway. there are a lot of problem in China, with their economy and constant shutdowns for zero covid policy.
 


essbee1

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Jun 25, 2014
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Why do these protests in Russia never turn violent against the police thugs (in the sense of bottles, flares, Molotov cocktails, bricks etc)?
If I was going to get dragged away, I'd want to get dragged away for a bloody reason.
 


GT49er

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Feb 1, 2009
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Why do these protests in Russia never turn violent against the police thugs (in the sense of bottles, flares, Molotov cocktails, bricks etc)?
If I was going to get dragged away, I'd want to get dragged away for a bloody reason.
Hmmm ... bottles and flares going onr way; bullets coming back the other.



Tough choice..............
 




GT49er

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Feb 1, 2009
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If only that message could be got across to the decent people of Russia in a way that they would realise it is the truth - along with the message that no-one has attacked or tried to invade Russia since 1941, and no-one had any plans to.

Thinking further along these lines, haven't we got IT whizzkids - hackers who've come over to the good side - that can hack into the Russian systrms and put that message acriss - albeit purporting to be official Kremlin information?
After all, if Putin's geeks and influencers managed to make all of us vote for Brexit (as many believe, anyway) why can't we do the same back? Is there an IT/influencer war we should be doing better?
 


raymondo

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Apr 26, 2017
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Thinking further along these lines, haven't we got IT whizzkids - hackers who've come over to the good side - that can hack into the Russian systrms and put that message acriss - albeit purporting to be official Kremlin information?
After all, if Putin's geeks and influencers managed to make all of us vote for Brexit (as many believe, anyway) why can't we do the same back? Is there an IT/influencer war we should be doing better?

There have been reports of that, anti war messages etc, appearing on news feeds suddenly, but Russia has an army of techs that close it down.
I suspect many of the Kremlin supporters blindly support the party line whatever... it's just easier for them to do that.
 


Springal

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Feb 12, 2005
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Thinking further along these lines, haven't we got IT whizzkids - hackers who've come over to the good side - that can hack into the Russian systrms and put that message acriss - albeit purporting to be official Kremlin information?
After all, if Putin's geeks and influencers managed to make all of us vote for Brexit (as many believe, anyway) why can't we do the same back? Is there an IT/influencer war we should be doing better?

Unfortunately our special relationship with the US means, that unless the ‘autism’ defence works, we ship all our hackers off to the US for trial never to be seen again.

GCHQ skilled up though but not sure they are especially going for state interference like North Korea, Iran, China, Russia
 




Eric the meek

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Aug 24, 2020
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Thinking further along these lines, haven't we got IT whizzkids - hackers who've come over to the good side - that can hack into the Russian systrms and put that message acriss - albeit purporting to be official Kremlin information?
After all, if Putin's geeks and influencers managed to make all of us vote for Brexit (as many believe, anyway) why can't we do the same back? Is there an IT/influencer war we should be doing better?

That depends what your objective is.

If it is to get the truth out in front of the Russian masses, then I would have thought that the mobilisation is already doing an excellent job. The genie is out of the bottle.
The Russian masses are now all talking about the war. The Kremlin's insistence on calling it a 'special military operation', now only highlights that they have a very low opinion of their own citizens, and lie to them as a matter of course.

Everyone now knows they are ruled by the iron fist of a brutal regime, that is losing its own war.
 












Eric the meek

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Aug 24, 2020
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Victim blaming. What a tosser. A very self important tosser as well. Unbelievable to write that letter to the wife of the leader of an invaded country.

All that money and fame, and he's devoid of any judgement. He hasn't even got the excuse of being exposed to a lifetime of Russian state TV.
 








Weststander

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Aug 25, 2011
69,339
Withdean area
Disappointed about Roger Waters getting involved:

https://www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-63026101

Joining Le Tissier who put the question out there:

"Whether hundreds of murdered women and children might just be crisis actors in a set up job staged by Ukrainian Nazis?"
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/other/voices-matt-le-tissier-was-just-you-know-asking-questions-about-russia-e2-80-99s-war-crimes/ar-AAVVGsO

Get the impression that some blokes get deranged as the grey cells fade away.
 


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