[Politics] Russia invades Ukraine (24/02/2022)

[TugWilson]

Erm.. I only said that Ukraine is the perfect testing ground for some of the West’s modern weapon systems! I didn’t mention any particular country!

The implication was that we are giving away our weapon system technology on the battlefield,the perfect place to do so don`t you think (That last part was rhetorical),and as i have already said - i doubt we have seen half of it ,and even better nor have the scumbag russians .

 

[portslade seagull]

The delusional Ruskies now reporting they have destroyed 6 Himars on top of the other two they advised last week. I think they are on drugs

 

[SeagullinExile]

The implication was that we are giving away our weapon system technology on the battlefield,the perfect place to do so don`t you think (That last part was rhetorical),and as i have already said - i doubt we have seen half of it ,and even better nor have the scumbag russians .

No it wasn’t! My point was that western weapons manufacturers can see exactly how they work in actual war, not just on testing ranges! Nothing more.

 

[TugWilson]

No it wasn’t! My point was that western weapons manufacturers can see exactly how they work in actual war, not just on testing ranges! Nothing more.

Because the Americans and the British are too stoopid to have had live tests in actual war conditions

 

[Deportivo Seagull]

Because the Americans and the British are too stoopid to have had live tests in actual war conditions

Any weapon can only be truly tested in a real world situation and Ukraine is such a situation.


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[Eric the meek]

'Ukraine war: Russia accuses US of direct role in Ukraine war'

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-62389537

 

[SeagullinExile]

Because the Americans and the British are too stoopid to have had live tests in actual war conditions

You’re missing the point mate. For example, don’t you think Saab BD & Thales are interested in how the NLAW has performed in actual combat, against the very enemy they probably had in mind when developing it? Of course they are. It’s ridiculous to think they’re not.

 

[TugWilson]

Any weapon can only be truly tested in a real world situation and Ukraine is such a situation.


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Seems like your Navy as is mine and my wife`s family ,straight away i will say i did not serve due to marrying the enemy literally weeks before joining HMS Raleigh

I don`t believe so, HMS Gloucester launched two Sea Dart missiles at a Silkworm aimed at the USS Missouri while on guard in the first Gulf War and destroyed it,but both systems had never been used in a war before ?. Things aren`t hit and miss anymore ,people are the weak link if you are firing a hand held weapon ,unfortunately computers do it better . When the Captain of the HMS Duncan was told he had 30 russian aicraft circling his ship he said `thats ok i`ve got 48 missiles` all computer locked . I definitely do not have the answers but i do believe the good guys do.

 

[NooBHA]

I thought this was an interesting listen for those who think sanctions aren't working, plus it bumps this thread back up onto the first page...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UeP0QwSHKr8

Of course sanctions work but there are too many countries like Kazakhstan who help Russia to circumvent the Sanctions. Whilst openly claiming not to support the Invasion. Ukrainian SSU are have been clear that the Kazakhstani Government is secretly buying sanctioned goods on behalf of Russia.

 

[GT49er]

Because the Americans and the British are too stoopid to have had live tests in actual war conditions

Well, just to settle this stupid argument, can we just see how they work (preferably in one fell swoop) on the Russian Black Sea fleet?

 

[indy3050]

Seems like your Navy as is mine and my wife`s family ,straight away i will say i did not serve due to marrying the enemy literally weeks before joining HMS Raleigh

I don`t believe so, HMS Gloucester launched two Sea Dart missiles at a Silkworm aimed at the USS Missouri while on guard in the first Gulf War and destroyed it,but both systems had never been used in a war before ?. Things aren`t hit and miss anymore ,people are the weak link if you are firing a hand held weapon ,unfortunately computers do it better . When the Captain of the HMS Duncan was told he had 30 russian aicraft circling his ship he said `thats ok i`ve got 48 missiles` all computer locked . I definitely do not have the answers but i do believe the good guys do.

Have you not seen Top Gun 2 - Maverick??

 

[super-seagulls]

he is a **** of the highest water ,

Is that really a saying?
Shouldn’t it be highest order?

 

[Is it PotG?]

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2022/aug/02/jeremy-corbyn-urges-west-to-stop-arming-ukraine



Wise words mate

 

[Nobby Cybergoat]

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2022/aug/02/jeremy-corbyn-urges-west-to-stop-arming-ukraine

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Wise words mate

I think messages of peace should always be considered. We've followed the drum beat of war too readily in the past. But I just don't see the logic behind this one. If Ukraine falls, it's impossible to imagine that will be the end of Putin's expansionism.

 

[A1X]

Hey everyone, Uri says he's got this one

 

[Mellor 3 Ward 4]

I'll make no comment


https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2022/aug/02/jeremy-corbyn-urges-west-to-stop-arming-ukraine

The reason we ended up with Johnson.

 

[GT49er]

Hey everyone, Uri says he's got this one.

I'll wait to see what David Icke has to say.

 

[Icy Gull]

The reason we ended up with Johnson.

The man is senile and in Russia’s pocket amongst his many other faults…..so maybe Johnson for all his many faults was in fact a better option

Shit I have commented

 

[Blue Valkyrie]

I'll make no comment


https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2022/aug/02/jeremy-corbyn-urges-west-to-stop-arming-ukraine

Woe Jeremy Corbyn

 

[rogersix]

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2022/aug/02/jeremy-corbyn-urges-west-to-stop-arming-ukraine

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Wise words mate

Has he rejoined the Labour party?