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[Politics] Russia invades Ukraine (24/02/2022)



Eric the meek

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Aug 24, 2020
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I know it's not the point of the article, but from that: "When Wagner leader Yevgeny Prigozhin was killed in a plane crash last year"

So it wasn't shot down, it simply crashed did it? I appreciate they may be attempting to be ambiguous and leave the cause of the deaths to us, but saying it crashed actually acts as though it wasn't shot down. When tanks are blown up by mines and rockets, we don't say they crashed :rolleyes:
Good spot. This could be the BBC copying the narrative in a report from Russia, after Russia has been subtle in its reporting language. Suddenly, Putin is distanced from Prigozhin's death. He wasn't shot down, and the innocent plane crew were not sacrificed to kill him.
 




Triggaaar

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Good spot. This could be the BBC copying the narrative in a report from Russia, after Russia has been subtle in its reporting language. Suddenly, Putin is distanced from Prigozhin's death. He wasn't shot down, and the innocent plane crew were not sacrificed to kill him.

I think it's pathetic of the BBC. What they could have said was 'died when his plane blew up', because that fits the conclusion from the West, and also the claim from Russia. The difference is simply how it was blown up.
 


Eric the meek

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Thanks, this is actually pretty encouraging and seems logical.
I liked the observation about Trump, who says everything to futureproof himself against changing his mind. That would explain the mixed messages I wrote about a week or two ago.

Then there was the point about the Russian Black Sea oil export terminals. The reason they are still operating is because Ukraine doesn't want to risk upsetting the Americans.

But if Trump says he's not going to send any more aid, then it could be open season.
 


Eric the meek

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I think it's pathetic of the BBC. What they could have said was 'died when his plane blew up', because that fits the conclusion from the West, and also the claim from Russia. The difference is simply how it was blown up.
I agree. I would have expected better from the BBC. They know Russia distorts reality. Indeed, they've got a whole department called 'BBC Verify' to verify incoming news items.

Perhaps they also need to use that department to validate and proof read their own output.
 






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