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[Politics] Russia invades Ukraine (24/02/2022)









Eric the meek

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I've just come across The Icarus Project, created by Paul Warburg, a geopolitics speaker, and a Peter Zeihan lookalike.

Still only small in volume, he has got potential as a resource.

See what you think. If you don't rate the video, the comments are still entertaining.

 




raymondo

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I've just come across The Icarus Project, created by Paul Warburg, a geopolitics speaker, and a Peter Zeihan lookalike.

Still only small in volume, he has got potential as a resource.

See what you think. If you don't rate the video, the comments are still entertaining.


That was interesting, thanks 👍.
I hadn't realised that China had screwed down the gas import price to such a low level - excellent.
Also, it was a good reminder (to me at least) how important it is to understand history when considering the future: Russia sold Alaska to the US in 1867...
 




Eric the meek

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That was interesting, thanks 👍.
I hadn't realised that China had screwed down the gas import price to such a low level - excellent.
Also, it was a good reminder (to me at least) how important it is to understand history when considering the future: Russia sold Alaska to the US in 1867...
On that last point, China has designs on large chunks of the Russian Federation, which Russia took in the 1850s I think. China would also like Lake Baikal for the fresh water.
 


GT49er

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On that last point, China has designs on large chunks of the Russian Federation, which Russia took in the 1850s I think. China would also like Lake Baikal for the fresh water.
Maybe Kamchakhta(sp) should identify as part of/allied with Alaska and sign up to NATO and watch the fur fly!
 


Triggaaar

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Also, it was a good reminder (to me at least) how important it is to understand history when considering the future: Russia sold Alaska to the US in 1867...

What are you thinking?
 




Eric the meek

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Maybe Kamchakhta(sp) should identify as part of/allied with Alaska and sign up to NATO and watch the fur fly!
It's funny you should mention Kamchatka.

Because according to the Icarus Project, to the west of Kamchatka, on the Russian mainland, last year China claimed a small disputed Russian island on the Amur River, opposite Khabarovsk. It's called Bolshoy Ussuriysk. It's only 135 square miles, but it represents, as far as I know, the first slice of Siberia where China has replaced Russia.

 




raymondo

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What are you thinking?
I was thinking through the last 90 seconds or so of the video @Eric the meek posted on #16163.
Wouldn't it be interesting if Russia lost chunks of Siberia to China (forced sale to pre-empt a potential military loss), in an attempt to keep funding it's war of westward expansion? It would have a certain poetry to it.
Russia and China certainly might have a 'strategic relationship without limits ' or however Putin worded it 😉.
 




raymondo

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It's funny you should mention Kamchatka.

Because according to the Icarus Project, to the west of Kamchatka, on the Russian mainland, last year China claimed a small disputed Russian island on the Amur River, opposite Khabarovsk. It's called Bolshoy Ussuriysk. It's only 135 square miles, but it represents, as far as I know, the first slice of Siberia where China has replaced Russia.


Probably Russia let China have it as a gesture of goodwill 😂.
 


raymondo

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As I have posted before. This guy is the real deal.



Kick Biden and Trump out and get him in.....

Well worth the view and his erudite and knowledgeable reasoned thoughts.


TNBA

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That was very interesting thanks. He's very clear minded and seems apolitical 👍.
In the absence of approval to use NATO supplied long range weapons deeper into Russia, Ukraine seems to only have two options for now:
- developing their own long range weapons, and I read last week that some countries have started helping with this (it can't be a short term delivery though?)
- developing more long range drones with powerful weapon capability.
 






Triggaaar

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I was thinking through the last 90 seconds or so of the video @Eric the meek posted on #16163.
Wouldn't it be interesting if Russia lost chunks of Siberia to China (forced sale to pre-empt a potential military loss),

Why would Russia lose anything to China militarily? Surely their nuclear doctrine would apply if a country was trying to take its land?
 




Eric the meek

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Aug 24, 2020
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Why would Russia lose anything to China militarily? Surely their nuclear doctrine would apply if a country was trying to take its land?
If that's what Russia tell's us, who are we to doubt them? See an example of Russia's nuclear response in post #16,172.
 








raymondo

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Putin is feeling increasingly vulnerable.

The mention of F16s in there reminds me of an article/video I saw a couple of weeks ago:
The author explained why it takes a long time to train F16 pilots if they're coming from a lower (eg MIG) base...and it's at least as much to do with the fighting tactics involved as it is for the flying technology.
For effective use of F16s the pilots have to get used to the operations and weapon firing instructions being controlled from the ground, especially when there are say 3 or 4 on a mission.
It's often easier to retrain novice pilots than experienced ones.

Anyway, it was way out of my knowledge area, but I think that was the gist of it.
 


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