just need the pilots trained up.I saw this morning that Ukraine's put out an ad for any vet F16 pilots that fancy some action
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[Politics] Russia invades Ukraine (24/02/2022)
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just need the pilots trained up.I saw this morning that Ukraine's put out an ad for any vet F16 pilots that fancy some action
Yes, but I think their problem is that they 'need' to (or feel they need to?) make visible territorial gains soon to convince the west to keep supplying weapons to them...as far as I can understand from media reports anyhow.
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Staring at the rude boys
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Interesting article about conversion to the F-16 from someone who knows a little bit about planes
It's an interesting thought. We'll only know something if it appears in memoirs in 15 years
I remember talking to a British army fitness instructor who had had dealings with SAS.
I remember him saying that these guys can disappear in a shadow and you won't know
they're there until it's too late.
Nobby Cybergoat
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- Jul 19, 2021
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The other story which will come out after the war is finished is the role of partisans, especially in Crimea
fly high
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Didn't realise they were getting so many, brilliant potential game changer.
True. Although various sources including the BE have disclosed they are in country “training the Ukrainian troops and intelligence gathering”
Not sure how reliable this all is but…
Ops 18. UK Special Forces Operations: Ukraine - AOAV
This section outlines the extent of UKSF's operations in Ukraine.
aoav.org.uk
“2021
April: A “small team of UK special forces” was deployed to Ukraine in an apparent intelligence-gathering mission (Mirror)This small SAS team has concluded that Russia was conducting a series of ceasefire violations across the Donetsk region in eastern Ukraine (Express)
June: In a press release, the British Embassy in Kiev, Ukraine stated that the UK Minister for Defence Procurement and Deputy Defence Minister of Ukraine “observed joint training activity of Ukrainian, UK and US Special forces”. This would suggest that there is a training operation of UK special forces in Ukraine (UK Defence Journal)”
Yep, probably no smoke without fireTrue. Although various sources including the BE have disclosed they are in country “training the Ukrainian troops and intelligence gathering”
Not sure how reliable this all is but…
Ops 18. UK Special Forces Operations: Ukraine - AOAV
This section outlines the extent of UKSF's operations in Ukraine.
“2021
April: A “small team of UK special forces” was deployed to Ukraine in an apparent intelligence-gathering mission (Mirror)
This small SAS team has concluded that Russia was conducting a series of ceasefire violations across the Donetsk region in eastern Ukraine (Express)
June: In a press release, the British Embassy in Kiev, Ukraine stated that the UK Minister for Defence Procurement and Deputy Defence Minister of Ukraine “observed joint training activity of Ukrainian, UK and US Special forces”. This would suggest that there is a training operation of UK special forces in Ukraine (UK Defence Journal)”
Ukrainian drone destroys Russian supersonic bomber
An image shows a Tu-22M ablaze after an attack at an air base near St Petersburg.
www.bbc.co.uk
Moscow said that a drone was hit by small-arms fire but managed to "damage" a plane.
Ukrainian drone destroys Russian supersonic bomber
An image shows a Tu-22M ablaze after an attack at an air base near St Petersburg.www.bbc.co.uk
Moscow said that a drone was hit by small-arms fire but managed to "damage" a plane.
Is it PotG?
Thrifty non-licker
US citizens advised to leave Belarus.
Next target then.
Next target then.
- Aug 24, 2020
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The Ukrainian drones can't just reach Moscow now. They can now reach Russia's second city, and Putin's place of birth, St Petersburg.Ukrainian drone destroys Russian supersonic bomber
An image shows a Tu-22M ablaze after an attack at an air base near St Petersburg.www.bbc.co.uk
Moscow said that a drone was hit by small-arms fire but managed to "damage" a plane.
Ok, some 'confirmation' here that certain drone types are almost certainly launched within Russia. Great
to read. No target is really off the menu then.
UK Defense Ministry: Some drone strikes against Russian targets likely launched from within Russia
The recent successful drone strike against a Tu-22M3 bomber in Russia's Novgorod Oblast "adds weight to the assessment" that some drone attacks against Russian targets are launched from within Russian territory, the U.K. Defense Ministry said on Aug. 22.
kyivindependent.com
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There's a lot of meat in that report.Ok, some 'confirmation' here that certain drone types are almost certainly launched within Russia. Great
UK Defense Ministry: Some drone strikes against Russian targets likely launched from within Russia
The recent successful drone strike against a Tu-22M3 bomber in Russia's Novgorod Oblast "adds weight to the assessment" that some drone attacks against Russian targets are launched from within Russian territory, the U.K. Defense Ministry said on Aug. 22.
'The Ukrainian news outlet New Voice (NV) reported on Aug. 21 that agents cooperating with Ukrainian military intelligence have destroyed or damaged five Russian aircraft.'
So, agents are operating inside Russia, and they are probably not Ukrainian.
'NV also reported that on the morning of Aug. 21, two more Russian bombers were damaged in Russia's Kaluga Oblast at the Shaykovka airfield as a result of a drone attack carried out by saboteurs working with the Ukrainian Defense Ministry's Intelligence Directorate.'
So, saboteurs, not part of the Ukrainian Defense Ministry. Same conclusion as above.
'The U.K. Defense Ministry noted that the successful attacks within Russia's rear raise questions about Russia's ability to protect strategic locations deep inside the country.'
(..)
Before the war I believe tens of thousands of Ukrainians worked in Russia - I have no idea how many may have stayed after the invasion
.Perhaps some agents are in fact Ukrainian? Anyhow, it's good the agents can cause really serious problems for Russia
- Aug 24, 2020
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Yes, you could be right. Perhaps some agents are Ukrainian, although I would have thought that ethnic Ukrainians based in Russia, would have been rounded up by now.Before the war I believe tens of thousands of Ukrainians worked in Russia - I have no idea how many may have stayed after the invasion
Perhaps some agents are in fact Ukrainian? Anyhow, it's good the agents can cause really serious problems for Russia
Like yourself, I have no idea of the numbers. Any remaining might be recruited to form a support network for foreign agents, who although smaller in number, would be highly trained in reconnaissance, intelligence gathering, sabotage, you name it.
Don't forget that Russia has the longest borders of any country. They will be easy to cross. Russia cannot possibly defend all of them.
Sirnormangall
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- Sep 21, 2017
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I think that’s highly likely. Since the annexation of Crimea in 2014, Ukraine has had plenty of time to plant “sleepers” in Russia. Perhaps too they’ve linked up with Russian nationalist / anti Putin groups.