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[Politics] Russia invades Ukraine (24/02/2022)









The Clamp

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Oh ok, thanks. Sorry, wasn't trying to stir. You've gave it a thumbs up and confused me.

Did I? Oh, accident. I know you weren’t stirring. All done and dusted, apologies for any rudeness yesterday. Onwards and upwards.
 


Wellesley

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No mate. Aimed at Wellesley - clearly a sad and tragic person.

Trigaaar, never became personal between you, me and Clamp.
Wellesley seems to be cut from a different cloth.

Oooooooh friends. :lolol:
 






Eric the meek

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'Moscow has deported 500,000 to Russia, says Ukrainian politician'

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/world-europe-61157670 at 19:37

Moscow has deported 500,000 people from Ukraine to Russia, the head of the Ukrainian parliament's humanitarian committee has told members of the European Parliament.
Mykyta Poturayev called on the Red Cross to establish contact with those missing.
"Half a million of Ukrainian citizens were deported from Ukraine to the Russian Federation without agreement from their side," he said.
"Unfortunately there is no opportunity for now even (to make) contact with these people," Poturayev told MEPs by video link.
It has not been possible to independently verify the figure given by Poturayev, who did not give details or supporting evidence.
The Ukrainian government this month said that children are being separated from their parents with a view to having them adopted by Russian families

Here is the link:

https://www.president.gov.ua/en/new...rayini-volodimira-zelenskogo-v-rijgikog-74297

'Deported Ukrainians are deprived of documents. Their phones are being confiscated. They are trying to take these people to remote regions of the Russian Federation. Attempts to return to Ukraine are being hindered in every possible way. Children are separated from their parents and there are attempts of their illegal adoption in Russian families...'
 


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The Clamp

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'Moscow has deported 500,000 to Russia, says Ukrainian politician'

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/world-europe-61157670 at 19:37

Moscow has deported 500,000 people from Ukraine to Russia, the head of the Ukrainian parliament's humanitarian committee has told members of the European Parliament.
Mykyta Poturayev called on the Red Cross to establish contact with those missing.
"Half a million of Ukrainian citizens were deported from Ukraine to the Russian Federation without agreement from their side," he said.
"Unfortunately there is no opportunity for now even (to make) contact with these people," Poturayev told MEPs by video link.
It has not been possible to independently verify the figure given by Poturayev, who did not give details or supporting evidence.
The Ukrainian government this month said that children are being separated from their parents with a view to having them adopted by Russian families

Here is the link:

https://www.president.gov.ua/en/new...rayini-volodimira-zelenskogo-v-rijgikog-74297

'Deported Ukrainians are deprived of documents. Their phones are being confiscated. They are trying to take these people to remote regions of the Russian Federation. Attempts to return to Ukraine are being hindered in every possible way. Children are separated from their parents and there are attempts of their illegal adoption in Russian families...'

This is the sort of news that upsets and angers me. Imagine having your children taken away and adopted to be raised by the enemy in Russia or in a lot of cases falling into the hands of sex traffickers, and the mothers are undoubtedly either being sent to work camps or sold onto human traffickers. It is heartbreaking. It makes me feel physically sick.
 












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'Moscow has deported 500,000 to Russia, says Ukrainian politician'

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/world-europe-61157670 at 19:37

Moscow has deported 500,000 people from Ukraine to Russia, the head of the Ukrainian parliament's humanitarian committee has told members of the European Parliament.
Mykyta Poturayev called on the Red Cross to establish contact with those missing.
"Half a million of Ukrainian citizens were deported from Ukraine to the Russian Federation without agreement from their side," he said.
"Unfortunately there is no opportunity for now even (to make) contact with these people," Poturayev told MEPs by video link.
It has not been possible to independently verify the figure given by Poturayev, who did not give details or supporting evidence.
The Ukrainian government this month said that children are being separated from their parents with a view to having them adopted by Russian families

Here is the link:

https://www.president.gov.ua/en/new...rayini-volodimira-zelenskogo-v-rijgikog-74297

'Deported Ukrainians are deprived of documents. Their phones are being confiscated. They are trying to take these people to remote regions of the Russian Federation. Attempts to return to Ukraine are being hindered in every possible way. Children are separated from their parents and there are attempts of their illegal adoption in Russian families...'

Those highlighted bits are probably the biggest evil of all. That, in effect, is pure unmitigated genocide, 'converting' Ukranian children to Russians. Pure evil.
 


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Up to you of course but like any troll, best ignored.

I have him on ignore, of course, but peeked at one post. That was enough. He used to be semi sensible, if a little thick. The old brain cells have not worn well in the last couple of years, and he's gone full 'Realitexit with no deal' with Johnson hanging out of the back of him, ever since :shrug:
 




Eric the meek

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Those highlighted bits are probably the biggest evil of all. That, in effect, is pure unmitigated genocide, 'converting' Ukranian children to Russians. Pure evil.

Agreed. What are we talking about here? The following is guesswork of course. But it would fit Putin's assertion that Ukraine should not exist.
Social engineering? A plan to rebalance the ethnic population in some areas? Attempts to populate sparsely populated areas in Siberia? Something worse?
 


The Clamp

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Agreed. What are we talking about here? The following is guesswork of course. But it would fit Putin's assertion that Ukraine should not exist.
Social engineering? A plan to rebalance the ethnic population in some areas? Attempts to populate sparsely populated areas in Siberia? Something worse?

Putin has already said "surrender or we will eliminate you". These cities have not surrendered, these people were captured. So I would expect that he is sending them to the far reaches of Russia to be exterminated in their thousands. Unimaginable suffering.
 


GT49er

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Agreed. What are we talking about here? The following is guesswork of course. But it would fit Putin's assertion that Ukraine should not exist.
Social engineering? A plan to rebalance the ethnic population in some areas? Attempts to populate sparsely populated areas in Siberia? Something worse?
Equivalent to Hitler's attempted eradication of the Jews - except that instead of killing the children you remove them from their parents and bring them up (brainwash them) as something they are not.
 


vegster

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Putin has already said "surrender or we will eliminate you". These cities have not surrendered, these people were captured. So I would expect that he is sending them to the far reaches of Russia to be exterminated in their thousands. Unimaginable suffering.

If this is discovered to be true then Nato and the UN and every country in the world with any sort of conscience will have to actively join the war. We cannot allow another Holocaust.
 




The Clamp

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If this is discovered to be true then Nato and the UN and every country in the world with any sort of conscience will have to actively join the war. We cannot allow another Holocaust.

Agreed. Putin is provoked by weakness not strength. We need to give that ****er a real kick up the arse soon.
 




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