Roy Castle Foundation adverts: Tasteless or Hard hitting

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Tasteless or hard hitting. Or something else.

  • Tasteless

    Votes: 4 14.3%
  • Hard hitting

    Votes: 18 64.3%
  • Something else

    Votes: 6 21.4%

  • Total voters
    28


Man of Harveys

Well-known member
Jul 9, 2003
18,874
Brighton, UK
I still can't quite believe that all smokers BURN babies in their prams. That's terrible.
 




Dave the OAP

Well-known member
Jul 5, 2003
46,761
at home
Roy castle went to the same school as my mum
FACT


Just thought I would share that with you.


:angel:
 


Uncle Spielberg

Well-known member
Jul 6, 2003
43,093
Lancing
I think the part where she lights up the fag from the flames is absolutely fecking bang out of order, I think it has gone too far this time.

I want an advert of a 3 year old kiddies tummy splitting open with lots of blood and guts and loads of McDonalds coming out with the mum looking on and laughing whilst scoffing a Big Mac and large fries.
 




Meade's Ball

Well-known member
Jul 7, 2003
13,653
Hither (sometimes Thither)
US, how, may i adultly ask, is an advert trying to dramatically show the ghastly damage that smoking does and the obvious lack of care and decency anyone, even someone as loving as a mother is generally seen to be, shows by smoking, feeding you this elaborate poison?

They simply show the cost of addiction, don't they Speilberg? They do not imply that all mothers watch their children burn without a glimmer of remorse on their face.

JEEEZ.

You are right about Macca D's. I too would like to see that.
 




Commander

Arrogant Prat
NSC Patron
Apr 28, 2004
13,560
London
Meade's_Ball said:
US, how, may i adultly ask, is an advert trying to dramatically show the ghastly damage that smoking does and the obvious lack of care and decency anyone, even someone as loving as a mother is generally seen to be, shows by smoking, feeding you this elaborate poison?

They simply show the cost of addiction, don't they Speilberg? They do not imply that all mothers watch their children burn without a glimmer of remorse on their face.

JEEEZ.

You are right about Macca D's. I too would like to see that.

MB, that was a serious post, using normal words. It didn't need de-ciphering. What's wrong with you, are you feeling OK?
 


Man of Harveys

Well-known member
Jul 9, 2003
18,874
Brighton, UK
Unfortunately, no television presenter, not even Vanessa Feltz, has yet died due to the effects of passive eating, so those GHOULS waiting for the equivalent McDo ads will just have to wait.
 


Uncle Spielberg

Well-known member
Jul 6, 2003
43,093
Lancing
Meade's_Ball said:
US, how, may i adultly ask, is an advert trying to dramatically show the ghastly damage that smoking does and the obvious lack of care and decency anyone, even someone as loving as a mother is generally seen to be, shows by smoking, feeding you this elaborate poison?

They simply show the cost of addiction, don't they Speilberg? They do not imply that all mothers watch their children burn without a glimmer of remorse on their face.

JEEEZ.

You are right about Macca D's. I too would like to see that.
They simply show the cost of addiction, don't they Speilberg? They do not imply that all mothers watch their children burn without a glimmer of remorse on their face.

Well actually it does doesn't it
 




Uncle Spielberg

Well-known member
Jul 6, 2003
43,093
Lancing
Man of Harveys said:
Unfortunately, no television presenter, not even Vanessa Feltz, has yet died due to the effects of passive eating, so those GHOULS waiting for the equivalent McDo ads will just have to wait.

Feeding young kids shit is akin to passive smoking it is exactly the same
 


Man of Harveys

Well-known member
Jul 9, 2003
18,874
Brighton, UK
Uncle Spielberg said:
They simply show the cost of addiction, don't they Speilberg? They do not imply that all mothers watch their children burn without a glimmer of remorse on their face.

Well actually it does doesn't it
Oh no...US, did you forget how to quote during your flounceaway? I just KNEW that that would happen. And after all that effort UB and I went to to teach you how to quote before...:nono: :nono: :shootself :shootself
 


Man of Harveys

Well-known member
Jul 9, 2003
18,874
Brighton, UK
Uncle Spielberg said:
Feeding young kids shit is akin to passive smoking it is exactly the same
Well, "exactly" is pushing it a bit I'd say but I agree with where you're coming from.
 






Trish

New member
Jul 5, 2003
515
I think the clips demonstrate that the babies have no choice whether their health is harmed by cigarettes. OK, so mothers don't set fire to prams but many do smoke whilst pregnant and when babies and young children are strapped in the back seats of cars, etc. So no, I don't think the advert is tasteless.
 






Meade's Ball

Well-known member
Jul 7, 2003
13,653
Hither (sometimes Thither)
Commander said:
MB, that was a serious post, using normal words. It didn't need de-ciphering. What's wrong with you, are you feeling OK?

Very nearly have two things again:
1 - my voice.
2 - partial sense.

Not from work or known struggle and pained intent. Just is. Brain ties facts together and offers some sentences the necessary structure and delivery that says what i think all rather simply.

Makes me want to cry, in places. Not because i am an operatic tenor covering a couple of Lisa Stansfield songs, but because a year, 1 month and 9 days thus far without myself as company has been extremely sad and painful. It's like meeting a likable brother you thought had died in war. Yes he's scarred, but he has a story to tell.


Now i know the sense is not illustrated here, but it almost make sense to me. :)
 
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Gwylan

Well-known member
Jul 5, 2003
31,827
Uffern
Commander said:
But nowhere near what they give in tax on cigarettes.


By the way I have nothing to back that up, I just completely made it up. Reckon it's true though.

Yes, smokers pay considerably more in tax than they cost the NHS. I worked in the Health Education Authority press office once upon a time and I came across the relevant stats - I think it's about four or five times as much (or at least it was in 1993) - this is a rare instance where something I did at work is useful on NSC.

I'm all for the ads: as someone who is asthmatic and who spent a good part of his childhood off sick, thanks in part to living in a house full of smokers, I don't think that ads can be too hard-hitting where children are concerned. Personally, I would make it an offence to smoke in an enclosed space (eg a car) when children are present - it's a truly terrible habit.
 


Commander

Arrogant Prat
NSC Patron
Apr 28, 2004
13,560
London
Meade's_Ball said:
Very nearly have two things again:
1 - my voice.
2 - partial sense.

Not from work or known struggle and pained intent. Just is. Brain ties facts together and offers some sentences the necessary structure and delivery that says what i think all rather simply.

Makes me want to cry, in places. Not because i am an operatic tenor covering a couple of Lisa Stansfield songs, but because a year, 1 month and 9 days thus far without myself as company has been extremely sad and painful. It's like meeting a likable brother you thought had died in war. Yes he's scarred, but he has a story to tell.


Now i know the sense is not illustrated here, but it almost make sense to me. :)

Good to hear mate, keep fighting :thumbsup:
 


glasfryn

cleaning up cat sick
Nov 29, 2005
20,261
somewhere in Eastbourne
great adverts and if it stops just one inconsiderate tosspot injuring or killing one of their children with smoking then its done its job.

feck I have seen here in wales (and no doubt it happens elsewhere) a mother with 3 children in the back of the car (no seatbelts for anyone),smoking, talking on a mobile heading towards a treacherous bend at somewhere nearing 70mph
and if that had been my mother when old enough I would have divorced her silly bitch :censored:
??? ??? ???
 




chip

Well-known member
Jul 7, 2003
1,313
Glorious Goodwood
Uncle Spielberg said:
Where's the adverts of mums feeding their children to death with junk food, likely to cause 100 fold more premature deaths in the future than so called passive smoking is ever likely to do.

The National Institute for Clinical Excellence agrees with you. Obessity and its attendent complications (CVD, hypertension, type II diabetes, liver fat, etc.) is now seen as the most serious threat to the future health of the nation.

There is no evidence that passive smoking harms children (or adults). The first analysis of the WHO long-term study actually demonstrated a benefit and it was re-written. There have been no validated epidemiological studies and recent papers in the BMJ (e.g., BMJ 2000;320:417-418 ( 12 February )) suggest that the figures reported in the general press are grossly overestimated and appear to be strongly influenced by genetic, environmental, economic and other confounders.

That said, I don't like smoking around children any more than excessive alcohol consumption, violence or swearing.
 


The Large One

Who's Next?
Jul 7, 2003
52,343
97.2FM
Uncle Spielberg said:
Labour hypocritical scum
Only you could turn a serious subject into a totally f***ing irrelevant political one with such a banal comment as that.

I preferred it when your flounces meant you left the board for a few weeks, rather than re-iterating the sensible points you are endeavouring to make with utter gibberish. You do have some relevant coherent points to make, and largely, having read your posts, I appreciate where you're coming from. But must you write as though you were Danny La Rue or Liberace?
 


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