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Roulette Machines



Uncle Spielberg

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Jul 6, 2003
43,098
Lancing
I tend to agree Bozza.
 




nwgull

Well-known member
Jul 25, 2003
14,533
Manchester
Anyone who believes they have a roullette system that works is the biggest mug in the casino. Each and every spin of the wheel is independent of all the previous spins and the odds paid out on any combination of bets will always favour the house by a couple of percent.

The only game where systems work is blackjack, as the chances of certain cards being dealt are obviously affected by the cards that have previously been dealt out of the shoe (usually containing a minimum of 3 decks). Even this takes an exceptional amount of concentration and mathematical talent, as well as relying on the casino not shuffling the cards too often.
 


mcshane in the 79th

New member
Nov 4, 2005
10,485
I've used the Ladbrokes website for online Roulette and the number of times you will get the same number come up twice in a row is ridiculous. You won't go more than 15 spins without a number coming up twice in a row.

I am convinced their "Random Number Generator" is fixed as you quite often get the most unrealistic sequences. i.e. 12 came up in 3 out of 4 spins followed immediately by 10 coming up twice in a row.

I've done pretty well out of it though so I'm not complaining!

I agree with the comments over it being a mug's game. It's only a mug's game if you let it be. As long as you walk into the casino with a limit on what you're happy to lose then it's not a problem at all. I will limit myself to £50 a night which isn't a great deal but means I can play for the night and have a good time whether or not there's anything left at the end of the night.
 


Bozza

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Jul 4, 2003
57,333
Back in Sussex
I agree with the comments over it being a mug's game. It's only a mug's game if you let it be. As long as you walk into the casino with a limit on what you're happy to lose then it's not a problem at all. I will limit myself to £50 a night which isn't a great deal but means I can play for the night and have a good time whether or not there's anything left at the end of the night.

Just to be clear - I didn't say roulette was a mug's game. But neither am I saying that there are magic systems that will lead to roulette being a cash cow for you.

If you are able to take a bit of cash, know your limit and can walk away should your luck run out then roulette and time in a real casino can be great fun.

Those machines in bookies are a mug's game however.
 


Durlston

"You plonker, Rodney!"
Jul 15, 2009
10,017
Haywards Heath
Those roulette machines are just evil. It's been about six years since i played on one and i never want to go down that road again- it was compulsive gambling that i had no control over, just trying to chase losses most of the time. I was staking £10 on an odd or even number and the amount escalated. One week i'd just got paid and in the space of a few minutes i'd spunked £200 away - i felt f***ing sick for days after and made a vow never to play on them again.

Now, whenever i'm in a bookies there'll always be some mug doing their money on them. I've seen punters kick the machines, spit on them, the inevitable swearing. I'd like to see the Conservative government (if they get in) do an investigation into those machines because they can ruin lives big time.:angry:
 




Cecil

New member
Feb 8, 2008
966
Heathfield
Those roulette machines are just evil. It's been about six years since i played on one and i never want to go down that road again- it was compulsive gambling that i had no control over, just trying to chase losses most of the time. I was staking £10 on an odd or even number and the amount escalated. One week i'd just got paid and in the space of a few minutes i'd spunked £200 away - i felt f***ing sick for days after and made a vow never to play on them again.

Now, whenever i'm in a bookies there'll always be some mug doing their money on them. I've seen punters kick the machines, spit on them, the inevitable swearing. I'd like to see the Conservative government (if they get in) do an investigation into those machines because they can ruin lives big time.:angry:

I no longer play these machines. I would much rather spend my lunchtimes over a pint in the star rather than doing my bollocks in the bookies !
 


I take on board what people have said about the difference between the machines and the real thing, and it's a fair point. It's also true that, as long as you are happy to lose whatever you bet, it can be an enjoyable experience. I'm certainly not averse to spending a couple of quid in a fruit machine, which is exactly the same (albeit for lower stakes). As long as you can gain sufficient enjoyment from the act of gambling that you receive from the losses then it's all good.

My experiences are coloured by the online roulette which I did play, which as I say I realised was the beginning of a slippery slope.
 


pasty

A different kind of pasty
Jul 5, 2003
31,043
West, West, West Sussex
If you are able to take a bit of cash, know your limit and can walk away should your luck run out then roulette and time in a real casino can be great fun.

Exactly how me and Mrs P play it. We both cash £30 into 50p chips and place 1 chip on the same 6 single numbers (different ones each obviously) every spin of the wheel. If none of them come up in 10 spins, we walk away.

Quite surprisingly, we seem to make a profit more times than we don't.
 








nwgull

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Jul 25, 2003
14,533
Manchester

Becauase if the ball lands on one of the 36 numbers that he's bet on he gets paid out at 36-1, net gain zero. If it lands on the one number he's not backed he gets paid funk all and a net loss of 36!
 




Insel affe

HellBilly
Feb 23, 2009
24,368
Brighton factually.....
Those roulette machines are just evil. It's been about six years since i played on one and i never want to go down that road again- it was compulsive gambling that i had no control over, just trying to chase losses most of the time. I was staking £10 on an odd or even number and the amount escalated. One week i'd just got paid and in the space of a few minutes i'd spunked £200 away - i felt f***ing sick for days after and made a vow never to play on them again.

Now, whenever i'm in a bookies there'll always be some mug doing their money on them. I've seen punters kick the machines, spit on them, the inevitable swearing. I'd like to see the Conservative government (if they get in) do an investigation into those machines because they can ruin lives big time.:angry:

takes a brave person to admit they were stupid, and me too fella. Although i would stick to the same numbers 5,10,11,14,17,20,23,and my main number 26 and i was prepared to lose £20 -£50 per spin on just those numbers, i would never change them as even if one of them did not come in for 20-30 spins odds were they would roll in soon, and yes i have walked out of a bookies with £2k plus everynow and again only to walk into another bookies with the same plan and it was gone in less than an hour or once i walked around with 6k for a week,because i could not bank it as the wife would ask were it came from so i lost it over a few days the next week.....stupid sick feeling you get,knowing how dumb you have been, so you would chase your money.......... I did this for a year and ended up spending all my savings some 10k. I contemplated taking out a loan to chase the money even further, however i went to the wife and told her and she like a rock suggested i go to gamblers annon which i did for 3 years and i can say i aint touched a crack machine since then. I have fluttered on the football, but i make sure i have only £20 on me when i go and dont take my card, i dont trust myself because i have an addictive personality and dont like losing at anything. some people are sensible and can handle it,but dont ever think you have a system or can beat it you cant. The main thing i learnt is only gamble if you happy to never see what you just handed over ever again.
 
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Paxton Dazo

Up The Spurs.
Mar 11, 2007
9,719
I'm probably in the minority, but overall, I'm actually up on Roulette. The most I've lost in one night is £50. The most I've won is 75 US dollars in a Casino in the Dominican Republic . I would love to claim I have a 'system' that works, but I don't. No one does. If there was a 'system', everyone would be at it. I wouldn't say I have a tactic, but I don't like doing numbers, I haven't got the bottle for that, I normally do £10 a spin...£5 down 2 of the flanks to win £15 back (How brave) @ 1/2. I find it fun. The only thing I need to learn though, is when to walk away :cry:.

The odds are NEVER fair either, because of the '0'...They were even more against me in the Dom Rep too, as the Roulette Tables over there have a '0' AND a '00'.

Dunno if it's been mentioned on this thread, but the bloke who 'invented' Roulette killed himself because he saw so many people driving themselves into debt because of it.
 


Colossal Squid

Returning video tapes
Feb 11, 2010
4,906
Under the sea
Last time I went to the Rendezvous Casino I had a little flutter on the roulette. Only a few quid, I never gamble with big money, it's all about the thrill of the win for me rather than the size of it.

Anyway after a few spins in which I had merely broken even the croupier turned to me and told me I'd have to take my chips off the black now as house rules stated that you could only bet on the same result so many times in a row. I, very honestly, turned to the drunk guy next to me who's chips they were and recounted what the croupier had told me, which he should have told him but to my surprise this guy acted all offended like I was accusing him of something and told me to leave him alone. The croupier just stared at me and demanded I take the chips. My mate I was with just stood with his jaw wide open and I worried that I was falling into some kind of trap however I really was being ushered to pick up this big pile of chips and eventually caved in.

Out of politeness I stayed on for one more spin, and as luck would have it my bet came in, netting me a few extra quid which I then added to this large pile I had been gifted before casually walking away with the stash. Nobody stopped me, nobody raised an eyelid.

I left £350 better off.

Unbelievable
 


Skint Gull

New member
Jul 27, 2003
2,980
Watchin the boats go by
2. These roulette, and similar, machines in bookies are just a modern variant of the fruit machine. Fixed odds for the house and a game for mugs.

To be fair every fruit machine is different and there are ways of knowing how to win so long as the hoppers are full (or close to) so long as you know the machine. There used to a machine at my local that I must have been £500 up on over a couple of month spell and i don't really even play them, i just got used to the way this had a bit payout being different to how you would expect.

These roulette machines I can't see being anything other than rigged though. What independant assessing is done on them (and online gambling of any sort)? I ended up giving up online poker for the amount of OUTRAGEOUS hands that showed up compared to real life. I must have seen 20 full houses online in half the hands i've played in real life where i've only seen 3.
 




Seagulls over Essex

New member
Jun 4, 2004
1,117
Leigh-on-Sea
I've used the Ladbrokes website for online Roulette and the number of times you will get the same number come up twice in a row is ridiculous. You won't go more than 15 spins without a number coming up twice in a row.

I am convinced their "Random Number Generator" is fixed as you quite often get the most unrealistic sequences. i.e. 12 came up in 3 out of 4 spins followed immediately by 10 coming up twice in a row.

I agree McShane. I have often seen that sort of sequence, but why is it fixed in that way? You would think by now that enough people would continue betting on the number that has just come up until it repeats to make it unviable to fix it in this way.
 


Taybha

Whalewhine
Oct 8, 2008
27,681
Uwantsumorwat
£5 a week on a saturday in metrobet, i just look at all the machines pick the one that has not spun any of my numbers in the last 20 spins and play it.

Get lucky sometimes and walk away with £30-£50 , if after the 3 spins my £5 gives me its gone then its gone,never put more than the £5 in.

03 split -10-17-20-25-28-31
 


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