Rotherham penalty announced before weekend [Update: 3pts deduction]

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Easy 10

Brain dead MUG SHEEP
Jul 5, 2003
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It's teams that win that get points deducted in a League game. If they lose, it's just a fine. It was only 5 years ago when it happened to us the last time - Hartlepool.

Middlesbrough failed to turn up at Blackburn for a PL fixture in 1997 due to multiple injuries and a virus. They were deducted 3 points for the no-show, and were relegated that season.

If they'd have just turned up and lost, they'd have stayed up !
 






Thunder Bolt

Silly old bat
Tevez set the standard for points deductions

The Tevez situation was different due to third party ownership. AFC Wimbledon & Hartepool had points deducted so the precedents have been set.
We're not gaining anything but Rotherham should lose the advantage they gained.
 










brianwade

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Jan 31, 2008
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He was registered to play until the Friday and then it was renewed on the Monday - there was no deliberate attempt to gain any advantage it was just poor admin. so like Blackpool they will get a fine . To deduct three points would be harsh . if it sent them down they would appeal and they would have strong grounds based on the Blackpool case . That would also take a long time so a fine suits all parties i think ..........
 


Everest

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Jul 5, 2003
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He was registered to play until the Friday and then it was renewed on the Monday - there was no deliberate attempt to gain any advantage it was just poor admin. so like Blackpool they will get a fine . To deduct three points would be harsh . if it sent them down they would appeal and they would have strong grounds based on the Blackpool case . That would also take a long time so a fine suits all parties i think ..........

If your car insurance ran out on Friday and, due to poor admin on your part, you would renew it on Monday, would you then keep driving the car over the weekend?
Or if you thought it ran out on the Monday (but it actually ran out on Friday) and you got caught driving at the weekend, do you think the courts would take that into consideration?
 




Eeyore

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He was registered to play until the Friday and then it was renewed on the Monday - there was no deliberate attempt to gain any advantage it was just poor admin. so like Blackpool they will get a fine . To deduct three points would be harsh . if it sent them down they would appeal and they would have strong grounds based on the Blackpool case . That would also take a long time so a fine suits all parties i think ..........

I think the difference could be that Blackpool lost their match, and Rotherham United won.
 


Justice

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Jun 21, 2012
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He was registered to play until the Friday and then it was renewed on the Monday - there was no deliberate attempt to gain any advantage it was just poor admin. so like Blackpool they will get a fine . To deduct three points would be harsh . if it sent them down they would appeal and they would have strong grounds based on the Blackpool case . That would also take a long time so a fine suits all parties i think ..........
If Millwall had beaten Blackburn mmm not sure anyone here would think a fine would be ok.
 


peterward

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He was registered to play until the Friday and then it was renewed on the Monday - there was no deliberate attempt to gain any advantage it was just poor admin. so like Blackpool they will get a fine . To deduct three points would be harsh . if it sent them down they would appeal and they would have strong grounds based on the Blackpool case . That would also take a long time so a fine suits all parties i think ..........

it will be 3 points deduction imho, the young lad in question got man of the match, played 90 mins in centre of their defence and they won 1-nil. He had a pretty significant part in the game and as MOM you cannot argue he didn't affect the result.

If Rotherham are given just a fine, and they finish fourth bottom by less than 3 points, you can be certain that whoever finishes 3rd bottom of Wigan or Millwall will be going through the courts.

So many times when a team has got points with an inelligble player the points are deducted, a fine is only normally for a team that loses anyway despite the offence
 




dazzer6666

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it will be 3 points deduction imho, the young lad in question got man of the match, played 90 mins in centre of their defence and they won 1-nil. He had a pretty significant part in the game and as MOM you cannot argue he didn't affect the result.

If Rotherham are given just a fine, and they finish fourth bottom by less than 3 points, you can be certain that whoever finishes 3rd bottom of Wigan or Millwall will be going through the courts.

So many times when a team has got points with an inelligble player the points are deducted, a fine is only normally for a team that loses anyway despite the offence

Agree. It'll be three points lost. Only reason Blackpool didn't is because they lost the game in question. Plenty of precedents. League should deal with it more quickly too.
 




Simster

"the man's an arse"
Jul 7, 2003
54,952
Surrey
I wonder as the decision will have an impact on relegation for somebody, if the game will be replayed, plus a fine.

Otherwise the whole thing is potentially going to drag through the courts.

A bit like Albion v York back in the day?

But yeah, I agree.

Minor fine, one point penalty, game result quashed and match replayed on Tuesday.
 


Uncle Buck

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Jul 7, 2003
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A bit like Albion v York back in the day?

But yeah, I agree.

Minor fine, one point penalty, game result quashed and match replayed on Tuesday.

I do not think there will be a point penalty (maybe a suspended one).

The problem is, it will end up in court if the FA / FL are not careful as it will affect somebody.

How many super fan points for a replayed game in Rotherham?
 




Simster

"the man's an arse"
Jul 7, 2003
54,952
Surrey
I do not think there will be a point penalty (maybe a suspended one).

The problem is, it will end up in court if the FA / FL are not careful as it will affect somebody.

How many super fan points for a replayed game in Rotherham?

Free scarves laid on for travelling fans?
 


pornomagboy

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May 16, 2006
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