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pottert

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Aug 12, 2009
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Just seen Rooney elbow on mod.
I am a Rooney fan but what was that about.
I've seen him make some rash challenges & get involved before but never deliberate elbows.
 




Goldstone Rapper

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Which mod? El Pres?
 


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this mod?
 










Finch

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Jul 21, 2009
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I haven't seen it, but hes done it before and nothing happened. Hes english so he'll likely get away with it again.
 


BensGrandad

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As the referee saw the incident & judged it as a collision so awarded wigan a free kick I don't think
any retrospective action can be taken.

The fact the ref gave them a free kick means he judged it to be a foul as a collision doesnt incur a free kick. I think the FA will look at it and take the action that the ref should have taken, especially if an FA council member reports it..
 
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Tim Over Whelmed

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He may be a fugly and a dick but he's in my dream team so leave him alone
 


Finch

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Was it worse than his one on Faye that went unpunished, or the one from Gerrard which the FA chose not to report?

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Maybe you're right and it will get reported, I just don't have much faith in the FA to punish violent conduct on or off the field.
 


pottert

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The fact the ref gave them a free kick means he judged it to be a foul as a collision doesnt incur a free kick. I think the FA will look at it and take the action that the ref should have taken, especially if an FA council member reports it..

I thought that action can only be taken to an incident that has not been dealt with by the ref.
 




BensGrandad

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That is my reading of it but ' not dealt with by the ref' I thought meant issued a card either red or yellow but my interpretation may well be wrong. He obviously saw it as a foul and gave the free kick but didnt do anything further and this is where I think the FA may jump in.
 


pottert

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That is my reading of it but ' not dealt with by the ref' I thought meant issued a card either red or yellow but my interpretation may well be wrong. He obviously saw it as a foul and gave the free kick but didnt do anything further and this is where I think the FA may jump in.

It is my understanding that the f.a only jump in to incidents that are unseen by the ref.
If the f.a punish Rooney which to be honest they should then they have to overrule one
of their referees who saw what happened & dealt with it as he saw fit.

If I'm wrong please feel free to put me right.
 


glasfryn

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Nov 29, 2005
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if that had been one of the Wigan players on Rooney they would undoubtedly have been sent off
Rooney is typical of most MU including the management in a word aggressive Refs are intimidated into making decisions that favour MU otherwise they get the hairdryer treatment and its about time the fa stood up to the bullies in the premier league (and for that matter all other leagues) and start handing out huge bans
 




Acker79

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It's actually a myth that action can't be taken if the ref has taken action, or at least it is for FIFA. According to martin samuel
Article 77 of FIFA’s disciplinary code states that its disciplinary committee has responsibility for rectifying obvious errors in the referee’s disciplinary decisions.

Read more: Martin Samuel: Mathieu Flamini's assault brings shame on the Champions League | Mail Online

Also this:
Article 77 (specific jurisdiction) states: The Disciplinary Committee is responsible for:
a) sanctioning serious infringements which have escaped the match officials' attention;
b) rectifying obvious errors in the referee's disciplinary decisions;
c) extending the duration of a match suspension incurred automatically by an expulsion (cf. art 18, par. 4);
d) pronouncing additional sanctions, such as a fine.

It is B that, in my view, opens the door to what most would see as a natural sense of justice. What is an "obvious error" is, of course, subjective but no more than a Regulatory Commission sitting in judgment on a claim for wrongful dismissal. If they can rule on that and overturn the referee's decision why can't they correct a wrongful NON-dismissal missed by the ref? Doesn't that come under "rectifying obvious errors?"

Football Writers' Association: Latest News :: Christoper Davies on retrospective punishment


I was astounded by Ferguson's comments about the media turning it into a issue and hounding the FA to take action against Rooney like they always do. Erm... what? The only time I remember anything like that is when he swears a lot and nothing happens. The only elbow incident with rooney and the media I can think of is when he was sent off in a pre-season tournament and faced a ban, and the media were on his side.
 


blue and white army

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Of course he'll receive a suspension from the FA. He was punished for a red card in pre-season against Porto a few seasons ago, for one of the most innocuous elbow's I've ever seen. His suspension was carried over from pre-season to the Premier League campaign. Serves that McCarthy right for trying to block him anyway.
 


Acker79

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Of course he'll receive a suspension from the FA. He was punished for a red card in pre-season against Porto a few seasons ago, for one of the most innocuous elbow's I've ever seen. His suspension was carried over from pre-season to the Premier League campaign. Serves that McCarthy right for trying to block him anyway.

But that was different. In that instance the ref gave the red card which incurred the suspension, and the FA acted in accordance with the referee's decision. In this case the ref didn't give a card, so if the FA again act in accordance with the ref's decision it will be no suspension because no red card.
 


nwgull

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Jul 25, 2003
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Being a bit nasty is all part of Rooney's game and this has been the case with many players over the years, let's stop being so soft about it. I'm sure McCarthy was giving as much before Rooney elbowed him, better to get your retaliation in like that than go running to the ref like a girl in my opinion.
 




Skint Gull

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Jul 27, 2003
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Of course he'll receive a suspension from the FA. He was punished for a red card in pre-season against Porto a few seasons ago, for one of the most innocuous elbow's I've ever seen. His suspension was carried over from pre-season to the Premier League campaign. Serves that McCarthy right for trying to block him anyway.

Are you seriously suggesting that its not McCarthy's job to try and stop Rooney? And are you really saying that because of that he deserved to have that little (unt elbow him in the face?
 


inland seagull

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Aug 7, 2010
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Ferguson is quoted as saying ' I have had a chance to see it and there is nothing in it!' If Rooney gets away with it under FA laws then the laws are stupid, but not as stupid as Sir Alex for making such a ridiculous comment
 


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