rooney you f**king cheat!

[Gully]

I have to admit to feeling really sorry for Bellamy, he was incorrectly sent off for being fouled...the ref can hardly put it in his match report that the player was trying to con him into giving a penalty as I am pretty sure the challenge was well outside the box...surely that will be overturned on appeal, but it still removed an excellent player from the game which may have had an impact on the final result.

As for players cheating, diving and the like, unless the penalties are really severe they will carry on doing it.

 

[glasfryn]

I have to admit to feeling really sorry for Bellamy, he was incorrectly sent off for being fouled...the ref can hardly put it in his match report that the player was trying to con him into giving a penalty as I am pretty sure the challenge was well outside the box...surely that will be overturned on appeal, but it still removed an excellent player from the game which may have had an impact on the final result.

As for players cheating, diving and the like, unless the penalties are really severe they will carry on doing it.

true he is an excellent player but I think you will find that most ref's perceive that he is always trying it on and mouthy although I have never seen any rules against this ...there is going to come a day when a player,manager,chairman is going to sue a ref for losing the team vital points

 

[HseagullsH]

H, you're not defending Drogba are you?

Less of a diver than say Gerrard, for example.

Gerrard doesn't do what Drogba does after every tackle though
Staying down and rolling around after the slightest of touches

 

[Superphil]

stick to replica shirts, you know nothing about football. You cock.

Charming. Sorry if my post seemed a little anti Chelsea, not really what I meant. What I was eluding to was that if you had a rule for banning cheats for 12 months, a side like Chelsea, with their current crop of players, Drogba, Cole, Carvalho, The other Cole, Terry, all exceptional, talented players, but also regular divers and "simulators", then there is a team that could be decimated by that rule, and then would truely struggle to be competitive. There are other teams that could also suffer the same fate, United included, but sadly the Chelsea I watch on telly of late are very prone to tripping over a blade of grass, moreso it seems than other teams.

Then again, perhaps I know nothing about football, in which case, my mistake, sorry. And thanks for the insult.

 

[Easy 10]

I have to admit to feeling really sorry for Bellamy, he was incorrectly sent off for being fouled...

If he hadn't been booked earlier for gobbing off at the ref (again), then he wouldn't have been sent off. Simples.

 

[Doris_Maywheather]

All players are cheats.

 

[andywhing4england]

Many England players dive but no one says anything. Steven Gerrard has a special technique where he falls flat on his belly and spreads out his arms and legs as wide as he can while shouting at the ref. and it always works as he always gets the penalty and Jim Beglin will go on about how 'obvious' that penalty was. lets face it, we have divers just like the foreigners

 

[Acker79]

I think perhaps rooney gets a thread about his dive because:

a) He is english and despite most of us these days acknowledging that english players dive, there is still a feeling that the media tends to ignore english players diving (even though they are now starting to acknowledge it too).

b) He's man utd, and there are people who hate man utd, and so will take every opportunity.

c) He's rooney, and some people think that while he is a good player, he is over hyped. That going two years without a competitive goal for england (covering a large bulk of the qualifying period of Euro2008, meaning is failure to score more frequently can be pointed to as one of the causes of our failure to reach the competition) is something they can't get over.

d) Rooney himself is often quoted in the diving debate as being against it. Yet continues to do it. Many strikers who dive will either try to justify it ("I don't give the decision, it's up to the ref to make the first call", "Everyone does it, I'm not cheating, I'm levelling the playing field") or will make a partial admission "It's not something we like to see, and I've probably gone down a bit too easy, bit it is part of the game, these days".

 

[Superphil]

Many England players dive but no one says anything.

I think you find they do, plenty of critisism on here of the likes of Cole, Rooney, Gerrard. Sadly the FA will only ever do Fuck All about it, FIFA don't care, neither do UEFA.

 

[andywhing4england]

I think you find they do, plenty of critisism on here of the likes of Cole, Rooney, Gerrard. Sadly the FA will only ever do Fuck All about it, FIFA don't care, neither do UEFA.

Yes so no one does anything about it...Sort of the point of my post

 

[Safe.]

Less of a diver than say Gerrard, for example.

Gerrard doesn't do what Drogba does after every tackle though
Staying down and rolling around after the slightest of touches

OK then H, OK.

 

[HseagullsH]

OK then H, OK.

Are you still going to give me 10/1 that Arsenal will finish higher than Chelsea?

If so, I'll place £3 please

 

[Safe.]

Are you still going to give me 10/1 that Arsenal will finish higher than Chelsea?

If so, I'll place £3 please

I don't know why you didn't take the offer yesterday or why you feel the need to say this on NSC.

 

[HseagullsH]

I don't know why you didn't take the offer yesterday or why you feel the need to say this on NSC.

I was up for it and said I was. I just never confirmed any amount...

5 quid - 8/1?

 

[Safe.]

I was up for it and said I was. I just never confirmed any amount...

5 quid - 8/1?

10 quid minimum and i'll give you 7/1.

 

[HseagullsH]

10 quid minimum and i'll give you 7/1.

Not really worth it for me. I thought they'd beat Liverpool, (won a few quid from it too) so not much has changed for me from the 10/1.

I don't particularly think Arsenal will finish higher, but at 10/1, I felt I was mugging you off

7/1? Nah, I'll stick with my 10/1 at the bookies thanks

 

[Safe.]

Not really worth it for me. I thought they'd beat Liverpool, (won a few quid from it too) so not much has changed for me from the 10/1.

I don't particularly think Arsenal will finish higher, but at 10/1, I felt I was mugging you off

7/1? Nah, I'll stick with my 10/1 at the bookies thanks

No surprise there.

 

[HseagullsH]

No surprise there.

Yeh, what a suprise that I am not accepting a bet that is completely on your terms

I'm quite happy to just take the other tenner off you

(Liverpool will still probably do it, but happy I took on bet )

 

[Safe.]

Yeh, what a suprise that I am not accepting a bet that is completely on your terms

I'm quite happy to just take the other tenner off you

I can't wait to bounce this thread at the end of the season.

 

[Gritt23]

Let's be honest here, cheating is absolutely RIFE in the game today. It's not all "Johnny Foreigner", some of the English players are shocking divers, and we know it.

The standard response from any fans seems to be to point the finger at someone else instead. "You can't criticise my player, as their player does it loads as well." If that's the best defence you have to the charge, then you are as guilty as a puppy sitting next to a pile of poo.

Cheating is endemic in the (once) beautiful game, and until the authorities grow themselves a backbone, it will continue. Get used to it fellas, this is what our game has become.