[Albion] Roberto De Zerbi wanted to join the best — then they overlooked him

[Seagull58]

Sensationalist, virtually evidence-free, nonsense. He has spun a story around social media rumours, a poor run of form and a crippling injury list.

 

[Stato]

True, good article, poor sub-editing. The title is stating fact not supported in editorial.

Journalistic standards are pretty dreadful nowadays, to be honest.

Whilst I'd agree that there is a disjunct between the headline and the article. I didn't think the article was good anyway. It's just yet another Fleet Street piece that assumes that the ultimate goal for everyone involved in football is to work for one of the Nation State owned monoliths. Okay, it's a safe assumption that people probably want to test themselves at the top levels, but when De Zerbi says that he wants a job where he gets up and loves being at work, I completely believe him. The man lives for football and wants the resources and freedom to indulge his obsession. I don't think it particularly matters whether that's at Brighton, Barcelona or Barnestoneworth United. He just wants to coach players to produce beauty and try to win football matches and he get's frustrated when he can't.

 

[Brovion]

I thought, like me, @Guinness Boy was doubting the '...wanted to leave...' bit, as opposed to the part about being overlooked.

They seem to be basing that on nothing more than 'impressions'.

'...he gave the impression he had outgrown his current employers, that he deserved better.'

'De Zerbi has to combat the impression he got ahead of himself.'

Yes, good point. I managed to miss that inference.

 

[Greg Bobkin]

True, good article, poor sub-editing. The title is stating fact not supported in editorial.

Journalistic standards are pretty dreadful nowadays, to be honest.

None taken

 

[Colonel Mustard]

Either I'm reading it wrong or there's an inexplicable dig at Sussex in there.

Perhaps it would have been a new addition to Brighton’s fixture list this season. Instead, with Albion out of Europe, slipping into the lower half of the Premier League, De Zerbi may be facing up to spending next spring in Sussex.​

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And if there are worse fates, if it is an exaggeration to say he has a reputation to rebuild, for some there may be hubristic element to De Zerbi’s fall.​

If there are worse fates than spending next spring in Sussex? C'mon. It's not that bad.

I think you're reading it wrong(ly). I took that as meaning "OK, yes, there are worse fates than being forced to stay in Sussex but...."

It's actually a badly worded sentence and a confused message. The dig was at De Zerbi I believe rather than at the delightful county of Sussex.

 

[Thunder Bolt]

Whilst I'd agree that there is a disjunct between the headline and the article. I didn't think the article was good anyway. It's just yet another Fleet Street piece that assumes that the ultimate goal for everyone involved in football is to work for one of the Nation State owned monoliths. Okay, it's a safe assumption that people probably want to test themselves at the top levels, but when De Zerbi says that he wants a job where he gets up and loves being at work, I completely believe him. The man lives for football and wants the resources and freedom to indulge his obsession. I don't think it particularly matters whether that's at Brighton, Barcelona or Barnestoneworth United. He just wants to coach players to produce beauty and try to win football matches and he get's frustrated when he can't.

The journo almost typed 'teams like Brighton' but just about restrained himself.

 

[The Cronx Seagull]

Quite easy actually, barely an inconvenience.

I'm a lazy lazy man.

 

[studio150]

Whilst I'd agree that there is a disjunct between the headline and the article. I didn't think the article was good anyway. It's just yet another Fleet Street piece that assumes that the ultimate goal for everyone involved in football is to work for one of the Nation State owned monoliths. Okay, it's a safe assumption that people probably want to test themselves at the top levels, but when De Zerbi says that he wants a job where he gets up and loves being at work, I completely believe him. The man lives for football and wants the resources and freedom to indulge his obsession. I don't think it particularly matters whether that's at Brighton, Barcelona or Barnestoneworth United. He just wants to coach players to produce beauty and try to win football matches and he get's frustrated when he can't.

When asked about the 1922 Barnestoneworth United team, RDZ immediately answered with:

Hagerty F., Hagerty R., Tomkins, Noble, Carrick, Dobson, Crapper, Dewhurst, MacIntyre, Treadmore, Davitt.

 

[Tom Hark Preston Park]

Roberto De Zerbi wanted to join the best — then they overlooked him

De Zerbi and Brighton will split at the end of the season, with Manchester United his final game in charge of the Seagulls, following poor results and speculation linking the Italian with vacancies at Liverpool, Barcelona and Bayern Munich

www.independent.co.uk

He wouldn't be the first silly f*ck Albion manager in recent times to start believing the lazy hyperbole mainstream journalism thrown his way in a quiet news cycle. Hopefully he has enough emotional intelligence to rise above it, unlike the last bloke

 

[HastingsSeagull]

Respected coaches all say he'll work at a club like those some day. Not seen anyone I'd respect say he's ready or it will be next season. Just shitty English pundits who copy media stories.

 

[Harry Wilson's tackle]

And your next task, journalist in the know, is to calculate π to one billion decimal places.

 

[Harry Wilson's tackle]

Where I'd disagree is that there is at the very least circumstantial evidence that he isn't exactly whistling Good Old Sussex by the Sea when he wakes up and donning his Peter Ward top. The moody Press conferences, the unsigned contract and the performances on the pitch for a start. Jolly is also right that we are weaker than we were last year - especially in centre mid - and it's not all down to RDZ but if he did want to leave I'm not sure some of his pressers would have convinced the egotistical "I'm right" owners that he is the right fit.

TL-DR

 

[DanRedman]

It's a good article and glad it mentions injuries and not fully replacing the roles of Mac and Moises. Our form really has dropped off since that night in Rome, and to me is also completely understandable. Biggest season for the club, players, coaches etc. To lose in that way will be demoralising and embarrassing. To then come back 2 weeks later (I think it was) and give everything for that 1-0 win, but it not be enough, will probably be the nail in the coffin. I want them to put it behind them, or to say, they're professionals; they should cope. But, they're human, probably mentally exhausted from those two legs. Europe has been amazing, but hopefully next season without it will also be too. The club is in an incredible, stable place. Just need the home crowd to give their full support tomorrow.

 

[Herr Tubthumper]

Either I'm reading it wrong or there's an inexplicable dig at Sussex in there.

Perhaps it would have been a new addition to Brighton’s fixture list this season. Instead, with Albion out of Europe, slipping into the lower half of the Premier League, De Zerbi may be facing up to spending next spring in Sussex.​

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And if there are worse fates, if it is an exaggeration to say he has a reputation to rebuild, for some there may be hubristic element to De Zerbi’s fall.​

If there are worse fates than spending next spring in Sussex? C'mon. It's not that bad.

Maybe the journo has seen the America Lane thread?

 

[Iggle Piggle]

TL-DR

How the hours must fly by at Chez Tackle.

 

[philgull25]

People need to give Roberto a break. He is an ambitious and relatively young manager, who is still learning his way at the top level. He wouldn’t be at Brighton if that wasn’t the case.

He’s made mistakes this season, particularly in some of the things he’s said in public, but he’s passionate and driven, which all in all is a good thing.

He’s our man for now, so we may as well get behind him and stop all this gossip.

 

[Dorset Seagull]

The article is written for a wider audience than Albion fans who wont have considered what we all debate all the time.

 

[Littlemo]

Where I'd disagree is that there is at the very least circumstantial evidence that he isn't exactly whistling Good Old Sussex by the Sea when he wakes up and donning his Peter Ward top. The moody Press conferences, the unsigned contract and the performances on the pitch for a start. Jolly is also right that we are weaker than we were last year - especially in centre mid - and it's not all down to RDZ but if he did want to leave I'm not sure some of his pressers would have convinced the egotistical "I'm right" owners that he is the right fit.

I think all that proved was that he was frustrated though. Not necessarily that he wanted to leave. I’ve no doubt that if a bigger name team came in he’d go because I do think he’s ambitious and that’s the career path basically, but I don’t think he is daft, I think he must know he has it pretty good here, decent and sensible owners, and a pretty secure PL job where there is some money to spend (even if it’s not a lot). that’s not to be taken lightly.

 

[trueblue]

Either I'm reading it wrong or there's an inexplicable dig at Sussex in there.

Perhaps it would have been a new addition to Brighton’s fixture list this season. Instead, with Albion out of Europe, slipping into the lower half of the Premier League, De Zerbi may be facing up to spending next spring in Sussex.​

​

And if there are worse fates, if it is an exaggeration to say he has a reputation to rebuild, for some there may be hubristic element to De Zerbi’s fall.​

If there are worse fates than spending next spring in Sussex? C'mon. It's not that bad.

“If there are worse fates” means Sussex is a good place to be…

 

[trueblue]

He wouldn't be the first silly f*ck Albion manager in recent times to start believing the lazy hyperbole mainstream journalism thrown his way in a quiet news cycle. Hopefully he has enough emotional intelligence to rise above it, unlike the last bloke

He’s spent 3 months fuelling the stories rather than pouring cold water on them, so it’s not surprising there are a lot about.