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[Albion] Roberto De Zerbi - JOINS AS NEW HEAD COACH (4 year contract)



Nobby

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Yup.

Which is wrong, obviously.

£8m would have meant that three months into a five-year-deal, Tony Bloom decided to give GP a six-year-contract worth £50m, that - in case GP was successful - another club could buy out for £16m. It would hands down probably be the worst deal in the history of the Premier League.
Basic Maths in it.
I would hazard a guess at £50k per week ish
 




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Here we go (again)



To caveat, Fab hasn’t been that accurate with Brighton scoops however

Seriously wish that greasy t**t Romano would just f*** OFF now
 






Seems to have been an influx of twitter stories about RDZ today. In today alone I have read that Inter Milan have made an approach for RDZ, another one that says RDZ is unhappy with the lack of control he has with transfers, and now this Fabrizio tweet about a release clause that could be activated in the summer.
As far as the "lack of control" in transfers I imagine come the summer Roberto will have some control with transfers. Tony and Paul ain't daft, if we qualify for Europe and/or win the FA cup they will certainly listen to Roberto in terms of players he would like.
 




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Here we go (again)



To caveat, Fab hasn’t been that accurate with Brighton scoops however

The sooner that little cretin goes away having had his 5 minutes of fame the better.
Quite why he has little harem of teenage boys who believe everything he says is beyond me.
 
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so there’s no release clause, but there is an amount owed to Brighton if another club approach RDZ early then. Clear as mud
 






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Is all this nonsense really around Spurs? Potter turned down Spurs, before we get ahead of ourselves. The idea that RDZ and Levy make good bedfellows is hilarious.

There are some unbelievable jobs out there for RDZ in a couple of years. Spurs won’t be one of them and, in any case, we’ll trigger Succession Plan 2.0 when it comes.
 


Springal

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Yeah. Compensation clause is money if we say yes, but we can still say no. Release clause triggers an automatic yes, we can not say no.
But if any club stump up £20M and RDZ wants to go would we really block him ? Doubtful
 






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As mentioned above, Italian sources are mentioned in tweets today that Inter Milan want Roberto in the summer.
I want to win the lottery, see Brighton win the Champions League and have a night that just involves me, Konnie Huq, a pot of Vaseline and some Viagra but I can’t see all of those happening just because that’s what I want :shrug:
 






Swansman

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Yeah. Compensation clause is money if we say yes, but we can still say no. Release clause triggers an automatic yes, we can not say no.

Not that simple unfortunately.

With players it is quite easy. Eg Darwin Nunez could pay up whatever he has left on his contract in Liverpool and join Brighton. No problem. Any player can do that. Liverpool does not own Darwin Nunez (owning people is abolished): they own his registration rights. Darwin could pay up the rest of his income with Liverpool and join Brighton instead, but he wouldn't be able to play unless the club bought the registration rights.

Managers doesn't have registration rights, making it a lot more difficult to protect them from going.

Negotiating for a manager is complicated. If Chelsea would have made GP brake his contract with Brighton without first asking for permission, no one knows what would have happened. It might have ended up in court where the outcome could have been "bloke can go wherever the f*** he wants as long as he/his new employer pays up the remainder of his contract" or it could have become "oh deary me, you can't do that, you have to pay £100m in compensation". Instead, Chelsea likely came asking and Brighton pointed at a release/buyout/compensation (whatever really, the outcome is the same) and Chelsea said "okey dokey".

No one knows what happens if club A wants the manager of club B (with the manager willing to talk) but club B refuses, because in that scenario everyone wants is to happen quick and smoothly. Clubs really dont want a wantaway manager so they get it sorted.

Sure would be interesting if Spurs or someone really, really wanted RDZ, RDZ himself wanted to go and Brighton gave them a blank no. Such a case has never been up in court, and neither has the concept of "release clauses" in general been up in court. Not likely that anyone is eager to be first either: would leave both clubs in a hopeless situation with their desired manager and the manager himself in a limbo in what could possibly take years to sort out legally.
 


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Not that simple unfortunately.

With players it is quite easy. Eg Darwin Nunez could pay up whatever he has left on his contract in Liverpool and join Brighton. No problem. Any player can do that. Liverpool does not own Darwin Nunez (owning people is abolished): they own his registration rights. Darwin could pay up the rest of his income with Liverpool and join Brighton instead, but he wouldn't be able to play unless the club bought the registration rights.

Managers doesn't have registration rights, making it a lot more difficult to protect them from going.

Negotiating for a manager is complicated. If Chelsea would have made GP brake his contract with Brighton without first asking for permission, no one knows what would have happened. It might have ended up in court where the outcome could have been "bloke can go wherever the f*** he wants as long as he/his new employer pays up the remainder of his contract" or it could have become "oh deary me, you can't do that, you have to pay £100m in compensation". Instead, Chelsea likely came asking and Brighton pointed at a release/buyout/compensation (whatever really, the outcome is the same) and Chelsea said "okey dokey".

No one knows what happens if club A wants the manager of club B (with the manager willing to talk) but club B refuses, because in that scenario everyone wants is to happen quick and smoothly. Clubs really dont want a wantaway manager so they get it sorted.

Sure would be interesting if Spurs or someone really, really wanted RDZ, RDZ himself wanted to go and Brighton gave them a blank no. Such a case has never been up in court, and neither has the concept of "release clauses" in general been up in court. Not likely that anyone is eager to be first either: would leave both clubs in a hopeless situation with their desired manager and the manager himself in a limbo in what could possibly take years to sort out legally.
Sorry but again you've made that up. The manager is under contract, as per contract law in this country. Breaking the contract against the club the manager would lead to them being unable to work elsewhere. If Brighton continued to honour the contract he would end up on gardening leave. Not so long ago we done just that to a senior person within the club.
 


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I accept that Romano gets plenty correct, when fed one-sided accounts from first hand sauces. But much of it is last minute eg he’s told a transfer is done just minutes before his rivals, that’s all.

But Naylor was a diamond on the Caicedo-Arsenal impasse and appears again to know his onions. He’s proving invaluable to us with that rarity … facts.
 


Swansman

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Sorry but again you've made that up. The manager is under contract, as per contract law in this country. Breaking the contract against the club the manager would lead to them being unable to work elsewhere. If Brighton continued to honour the contract he would end up on gardening leave. Not so long ago we done just that to a senior person within the club.
Yes if the right provisions are in that contract, a court could decide that he could end up on a garden leave for most likely 6-12 months.

It happened to Steve Bruce, who had a nine month notice period and a garden leave clause written into his contract. Whether RDZ and his agents are equally thick to agree to something like that being in his contract, then sure, that could happen as we've seen a handful of times.
 




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another one that says RDZ is unhappy with the lack of control he has with transfers
I don't know what the source for that one is, but it might be a poor interpretation of those Italian interviews he gave recently. In one of those ones, when he was specifically asked about it he said that in order to improve further one of the things you'll have to do is add some depth to the squad. And in another one - always when asked about it, not unprompted - he said that he doesn't have a say in transfer market operations yet. Nothing to panic about so far.

As mentioned above, Italian sources are mentioned in tweets today that Inter Milan want Roberto in the summer.
Yeah I bet they do lol
From those interviews he gave recently in Italian he didn't seem too keen to return to Italy so soon
 


Swansman

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I don't know what the source for that one is, but it might be a poor interpretation of those Italian interviews he gave recently. In one of those ones, when he was specifically asked about it he said that in order to improve further one of the things you'll have to do is add some depth to the squad. And in another one - always when asked about it, not unprompted - he said that he doesn't have a say in transfer market operations yet. Nothing to panic about so far.


Yeah I bet they do lol
From those interviews he gave recently in Italian he didn't seem too keen to return to Italy so soon
He said multiple times during the last weeks before the transfer window and the first couple of weeks in it that he wanted signings. Talk died off at the end, perhaps Paul Barber or someone told him to zip it as the manager screaming for signings is a rather big disadvantage in any negotiation you want to do with other clubs.

His words when departing Foggia like one week before their league start:

"With death in my heart this morning I was exonerated. For some time my relations with Ds Di Bari had been strained. In June, to convince me to stay, he made me a series of promises that were never kept. The figure of Colucci, strongly wanted by me, brought no improvement. I am aware that I have an edgy character, I know I do not have elegant manners at times, but I live for my work. For the past two years I have put Foggia before everything and everyone, family and career included. My fault is being demanding with myself with the players and with everyone who works with me, from the warehouse workers to the gardener. Even with sports directors I have reasoned in this way.
If I make a commitment I take responsibility and put my face to it.
This year was a year for me where nothing could go wrong. The non-renewal of Gigliotti, the failure to replace Iemmello and Di Chiara who have been out for some time, some negotiations broken off for futile reasons, or the lack of attention to the Amendola pitch, which has been abandoned since 11 June and will not be ready until November, are some of the reasons for my impatience. On the market, I asked the club to put together an important team. I opposed financial outlays that were out of all logic, but I always remembered that Foggia wanted to win this year and having declared that we were aiming for first place meant that there were burdens to be maintained towards the people.
Despite feeling all this as a serious problem I would never have allowed myself to ask 'It was either me or Di Bari' because I remember well that I was the one who gave me the opportunity to start coaching and neither did I ever set an out-out to force purchases of players.
I denounced this thought of mine in order to make a clean break with what was being done. For the good of all.
I am writing these lines because I do not want mud to be thrown at my person. I have renounced higher categories because I feel this team is a matter of skin and I am not regretful. I feel I am at peace with my conscience. I am a passionate instinctual so easily prone to making mistakes in manner and timing. But I am true, loyal, sincere and consistent. With everyone. From the strongest to the weakest.
I thank the Sannella brothers for what they have given me in these months. I am sorry that I have not been able to make myself well known.
Maybe I should have cultivated my relationship with them more and maybe they would have appreciated my professionalism and my human side.
I am convinced that I did everything in their interest sometimes forgetting my own interests.
I thank my players whom I will always carry in my heart. I am sorry to leave something I built. Day after day.
I thank the people of the Zaccheria. My stadium."


...also indicates that he wants money to be spent, very good players to be brought in, himself to have a big say in who comes and leaves.

Ultimately, I don't think it will be a problem. But it can't be ruled out. The club won't abandon its model just because a manager wants it to.
 


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