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[Other Sport] RIP Leon Spinks



Lenny Rider

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Sadly from Prostrate Cancer aged 67.

Younger NSC’ers will rightly say who?, but one of only 5 fighters to beat The Greatest, Muhammad Ali, in February 1978, outpointed him over 15 rounds, although Ali won the title back 7 months later.

Unfortunately Spinks never took to fame and fortune, got ripped off and ended up skint, glass collecting in a bar, his younger brother Michael emulated him by beating Larry Holmes for a version of the title in 1985.
 








Lenny Rider

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He did, undisputed welterweight champion and at least one title at light-middle I believe.

RIP Leon.


Just reading up his son was Cory Spinks.

I didn’t realise that Leon switched to wrestling, and reportedly held a ‘version’ of a world title making him only one of two people, Primo Carnera the other, to be both a World boxing and wrestling champion (Although we all know wrestling is pretend 😂)
 


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Just reading up his son was Cory Spinks.

I didn’t realise that Leon switched to wrestling, and reportedly held a ‘version’ of a world title making him only one of two people, Primo Carnera the other, to be both a World boxing and wrestling champion (Although we all know wrestling is pretend ��)

Pretend, you say? ???

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Marxo

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RIP Leon, I remember that fight against Ali. I remember Michael fighting Tyson too, June 27 1988. I was in an hotel in Benidorm and they were showing the fight at 2am, the bar closed at 1am so a bought 2 long drinks to tide me over. The fight was delayed until about 5am, the drinks were long gone and 91 seconds later so was the fight. Michael was really a Light-Heavyweight at that time so I should have expected it, Tyson went at him like a pit-bull and he had no chance.
 


Randy McNob

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RIP Leon, I remember that fight against Ali. I remember Michael fighting Tyson too, June 27 1988. I was in an hotel in Benidorm and they were showing the fight at 2am, the bar closed at 1am so a bought 2 long drinks to tide me over. The fight was delayed until about 5am, the drinks were long gone and 91 seconds later so was the fight. Michael was really a Light-Heavyweight at that time so I should have expected it, Tyson went at him like a pit-bull and he had no chance.

Yeah he didn't look like a natural heavyweight and way out of his depth against Tyson in his pomp
 


Motogull

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He made his mark in boxing history.

Died too young, but cancer doesn't care. I hope he did not suffer too much.
 




Lenny Rider

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Yeah he didn't look like a natural heavyweight and way out of his depth against Tyson in his pomp


The other week was the 33rd anniversary of Tyson vs Holmes, at the time Tyson was barely 21 and Holmes was 38, in the build up Tyson was asked “Where do you think you will be when you’re 38?”, he replied Dead or in prison.

So for him to still be here all those years later in a relatively good place is almost heartwarming. 👍
 


Cowfold Seagull

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Just reading up his son was Cory Spinks.

I didn’t realise that Leon switched to wrestling, and reportedly held a ‘version’ of a world title making him only one of two people, Primo Carnera the other, to be both a World boxing and wrestling champion (Although we all know wrestling is pretend ��)

Wrestling always makes me think of my late mum. She would watch World of Sport regularly back in the 60's and 70's, and hated Mick McManus with a passion, as soon as he walked into the ring, she would attack the tv set with her handbag.
 






dangull

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It has to be said that Ali was way past his best at that time, and maybe already showing the first signs of the illness that afflicted him in his later years
 


Lenny Rider

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It has to be said that Ali was way past his best at that time, and maybe already showing the first signs of the illness that afflicted him in his later years


Ali was later reported to have said he should have quit after Zaire in 74 and Manila in 75, unfortunately he was a cash cow for Elijah Muhhamed and the Nation of Islam, when he fought Frazier in 75 his entourage ran to 70 hotel rooms.

If he had gone then rather than after the Berbick fight in 1981, his health might have been better?
 


dangull

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Ali was later reported to have said he should have quit after Zaire in 74 and Manila in 75, unfortunately he was a cash cow for Elijah Muhhamed and the Nation of Islam, when he fought Frazier in 75 his entourage ran to 70 hotel rooms.

If he had gone then rather than after the Berbick fight in 1981, his health might have been better?

Yes I think so. The Thrilla in Manilla was a savage fight and it is said that both men were never the same again. That would have been the right time to bow out, but Ali fought on for a number of years taking on more punishment as he didn't have the legs or reflexes of when he was in his prime.
 




SK1NT

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RIP Leon. Goes down in history as being one of Ali's opponents. Deep down he must have known he beat a shadow of a man. He lost to him in the rematch. What an Era of boxing that was.

I read a brilliant article about 5 years back about tracing every opponent Ali faced. It really was a a great read. I have tried to find it to post here but can't. i shall carry on looking.
 


NooBHA

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When I saw the thread I first thought it was the Villa Goalie then remembered he was Nigel Spinks
 








Lenny Rider

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RIP Leon. Goes down in history as being one of Ali's opponents. Deep down he must have known he beat a shadow of a man. He lost to him in the rematch. What an Era of boxing that was.

I read a brilliant article about 5 years back about tracing every opponent Ali faced. It really was a a great read. I have tried to find it to post here but can't. i shall carry on looking.

I have a book Facing Ali, which gets the stories of a number of his opponents, when this madness is over and we get back to the Amex, more than happy to lend it to you, sorry don't trust the Royal Mail ATM :)
 


SK1NT

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I have a book Facing Ali, which gets the stories of a number of his opponents, when this madness is over and we get back to the Amex, more than happy to lend it to you, sorry don't trust the Royal Mail ATM :)


Hey Lenny Awesome. Very kind offer. It may be some time :) however i am going to look this up. Thanks mate.
 


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