[Football] Revolutionary defensive wall tactic, pah!

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Stat Brother

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Another football thread :clap2::O:banana::clap:




But it's the same as the last one :down:
 




Jim D

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Didn't we do something similar when Newcastle had a kick towards the end of the game on Saturday? As it was, shelvey went over the top.
 


Easy 10

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Talking of revolutionary tactics.

Whats to stop a team kicking off, then 4 players putting arms over shoulders and completely encircling the ball, then working their way up the pitch into the penalty area, tapping the ball around within their tight little circle, then breaking open so that someone can LARRUP it at the goal from close range ?

You couldn't use the whole team in the circle as it wouldn't be within playing distance and therefore would be obstruction, but if it was only 4 players then the ball would (in theory) remain within playing distance, therefore nullifying the obstruction aspect. Plus you want some players staying back obviously, in case it goes wrong.

I think we should try this on Saturday. See what happens.
 




Gwylan

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Talking of revolutionary tactics.

Whats to stop a team kicking off, then 4 players putting arms over shoulders and completely encircling the ball, then working their way up the pitch into the penalty area, tapping the ball around within their tight little circle, then breaking open so that someone can LARRUP it at the goal from close range ?

You couldn't use the whole team in the circle as it wouldn't be within playing distance and therefore would be obstruction, but if it was only 4 players then the ball would (in theory) remain within playing distance, therefore nullifying the obstruction aspect. Plus you want some players staying back obviously, in case it goes wrong.

I think we should try this on Saturday. See what happens.

The opposition would push up in a line meaning that the front players in the circle would immediately be offside
 


pasty

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The opposition would push up in a line meaning that the front players in the circle would immediately be offside

Ah, but the minute the opposition do that, we could break the circle and the front player would then be clean through on goal with no defense :lolol:
 


Easy 10

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The opposition would push up in a line meaning that the front players in the circle would immediately be offside

What if the person at the back of the circle just dribbles it then
 






Commander

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The opposition would push up in a line meaning that the front players in the circle would immediately be offside

No chance would they think of that, not the first time anyway. It would get stopped when someone walloped the four players with a crunching sliding tackle.
 


Triggaaar

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The opposition would push up in a line meaning that the front players in the circle would immediately be offside
The front player needs to be the only one touching the ball then.
 




Beanstalk

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What if the person at the back of the circle just dribbles it then

Then when an opposition player attempts to tackle and is blocked off, a free-kick would be given.

"Impeding the progress of an opponent means moving into the opponent’s path to obstruct, block, slow down or force a change of direction when the ball is not within playing distance of either player."

It's basically impossible unless you get 5 players in a circle passing it around, and another player, plays on the last defender, pushing the defensive line back.
 


Easy 10

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Then when an opposition player attempts to tackle and is blocked off, a free-kick would be given.

"Impeding the progress of an opponent means moving into the opponent’s path to obstruct, block, slow down or force a change of direction when the ball is not within playing distance of either player."

It's basically impossible unless you get 5 players in a circle passing it around, and another player, plays on the last defender, pushing the defensive line back.

The opposition player would be blocked, but the ball WOULD be within playing distance (of both players) = no obstruction.
 


Beanstalk

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The opposition player would be blocked, but the ball WOULD be within playing distance (of both players) = no obstruction.

The argument would be that for a ball to be in playing distance, they have to be playing the ball or it is a foul. I think my solution would work perfectly for this as all five have passed it around.

Don't worry all, I have emailed Barber to pass on to Chris so expect to see this on Saturday.
 




The Antikythera Mechanism

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Talking of revolutionary tactics.

Whats to stop a team kicking off, then 4 players putting arms over shoulders and completely encircling the ball, then working their way up the pitch into the penalty area, tapping the ball around within their tight little circle, then breaking open so that someone can LARRUP it at the goal from close range ?

You couldn't use the whole team in the circle as it wouldn't be within playing distance and therefore would be obstruction, but if it was only 4 players then the ball would (in theory) remain within playing distance, therefore nullifying the obstruction aspect. Plus you want some players staying back obviously, in case it goes wrong.

I think we should try this on Saturday. See what happens.

These sort of tactics, you mean?

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Doc Lynam

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Reminds me of one of Peter Cooks characters the football manager Alan Lachley, when he described his famous Escapini Defence:

AL: "Which consisted of a ten-man defensive unit. I had them stood on each other's shoulders in the goal mouth, their back to the opposing team. And they'd just sit there and we'd rely on rebounds! That lasted two weeks at Hartlepool. Well, I'm a Scunny man, and they don't like Scunny people at Hartlepool."
 


Ceej

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Talking of revolutionary tactics.

Whats to stop a team kicking off, then 4 players putting arms over shoulders and completely encircling the ball, then working their way up the pitch into the penalty area, tapping the ball around within their tight little circle, then breaking open so that someone can LARRUP it at the goal from close range ?

You couldn't use the whole team in the circle as it wouldn't be within playing distance and therefore would be obstruction, but if it was only 4 players then the ball would (in theory) remain within playing distance, therefore nullifying the obstruction aspect. Plus you want some players staying back obviously, in case it goes wrong.

I think we should try this on Saturday. See what happens.

Or we take it in turns to receive the ball, successfully passing it to colleagues either in a square, triangle or hexagonal formation, moving goalwards as we do. This way, the opposition, namely Wolves (who will be relying on stealth and scent) won't know what on earth has hit them until we're about 6-nil up. At that point we put 10 on our goal line and hit them on the (very big) break.
 


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