[Politics] Revolution?

[Sussex Nomad]

I've been revolting for years but the real revolution will only happen when we hold our own war criminals to account.

The day we drag Blair to the Hague for sending our soldiers out to fight a war based on deception and killing hundreds of thousands of innocent men women and children will be the real revolution. Holding our own leaders to account for their crimes is key for real justice, and only then will be a revolution.

100% behind you. These motherf*ckers in government are prosecuting soldiers for alleged murder/manslaughter from 40 years ago. They should start prosecuting those that put them in that position.

 

[wellquickwoody]

Even more so when the people in question go out of their way to find news stories about 'good old blighty' to be offended by, validating their own decision to move away.

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[JC Footy Genius]

If the French political class had acted in the same way our lot have there would be yellow shirts protests, burning roadblocks all over the country. Fortunately for them, we don't do that over here but if pushed far enough ....

 

[Sussex Nomad]

If the French political class had acted in the same way our lot have there would be yellow shirts protests, burning roadblocks all over the country. Fortunately for them, we don't do that over here but if pushed far enough ....

And we will be on a second referendum, the betrayal of our democracy.

 

[drew]

I've been revolting for years but the real revolution will only happen when we hold our own war criminals to account.

The day we drag Blair to the Hague for sending our soldiers out to fight a war based on deception and killing hundreds of thousands of innocent men women and children will be the real revolution. Holding our own leaders to account for their crimes is key for real justice, and only then will be a revolution.

I've boycotted voting until that f""""" is jailed and if anyone wants a revolution they should boycott voting too until justice is done.

I'm not a fan of Islam but what we did to Iraq, and the suffering from the fallout without any justice, is an insult to reason, fairness and humanity. What he did was terrorism and I despise him as much as radical Islam despises us, and we are paying the price, in blood, for letting him walk away with no form of punishment let alone charges.

Until we are seen to do the right thing, when we point fingers and demonise other leaders, we are just hypocrites with a do as we say, not as we do attitude, and so we do not deserve to be taken seriously on the world stage until justice is done Brexit or no Brexit.

And exactly how is boycotting voting going to achieve your goal?

 

[symyjym]

And exactly how is boycotting voting going to achieve your goal?

Me not voting won't do a thing, but if the majority boycotted voting until he is sent to the Hague, then the government will have no power and the system would fall through lack of confidence. If the government falls we can take him to the Hague ourselves or keep him home bound and in prison in his own home.

The question really is how would the government react to our demands? Send him to the Hague or send the country into chaos?

It's not a huge demand or unreasonable conditions and the chances are they would choose to send him to the Hague to press charges. In the meantime he may take his chances and seek asylum somewhere and that would be justice too. But we don't want him in this country.

It's not about making Britain great again it's about people feel proud of this country again.

 

[beorhthelm]

If the French political class had acted in the same way our lot have there would be yellow shirts protests, burning roadblocks all over the country. Fortunately for them, we don't do that over here but if pushed far enough ....

... yeah about what we'd do. when was last revolt or uprising? few riots aside it not in our nature.

 

[Hu_Camus]

I quite liked The Revolution, although I prefered the 'Inn Place' on a Sunday. The Pickwick was fun, (when I wasn't being knocked out) and I still cant quite get my head round how the Hungry Years has changed.
I often wonder what the birds in the cages at Sherries are up to.....whether their grandkids know?

 

[Comrade Sam]

As a Socialist I am an advocate of revolution. I am unconcerned about brexit either way, but I am constantly disgusted by a society built on such iniquity. I believe in democracy, but what we have is a farce. Parliament is just a freak show, full of monkeys sponsored to represent their vested interests. They're not allowed or interested in threatening the powers that rule our society - the City, the Banks, big business, the arms industry, property speculators etc. Just look at the vicious war waged on Corbyn for threatening just a tiny shift in the balance away from the rich. These scumbags won't even give us crumbs from their tables without a fight. Tories, Liberals, Farage, ChangeUk, Tom Watson - are all different sides of the same coin, they all want more austerity, more privatisation, more wars, more social deprivation, more control of organised labour, more tax cuts for the rich, more benefit cuts - some in the EU and the others outside. Just overthrow the lot of them.

 

[Hu_Camus]

As a Socialist I am an advocate of revolution. I am unconcerned about brexit either way, but I am constantly disgusted by a society built on such iniquity. I believe in democracy, but what we have is a farce. Parliament is just a freak show, full of monkeys sponsored to represent their vested interests. They're not allowed or interested in threatening the powers that rule our society - the City, the Banks, big business, the arms industry, property speculators etc. Just look at the vicious war waged on Corbyn for threatening just a tiny shift in the balance away from the rich. These scumbags won't even give us crumbs from their tables without a fight. Tories, Liberals, Farage, ChangeUk, Tom Watson - are all different sides of the same coin, they all want more austerity, more privatisation, more wars, more social deprivation, more control of organised labour, more tax cuts for the rich, more benefit cuts - some in the EU and the others outside. Just overthrow the lot of them.

Much of what you say has at least some merit, but mention of the little tramp is conspicuous only by it's absence.
....Go on, feel free to tell us why he's such a hero, or at the very least, why he alone seems to avoid opprobrium.

 

[Comrade Sam]

Charlie Chaplin?
I thought this was a political discussion!

 

[dingodan]

Let's just leave, preserve respect for and faith in democracy, put this all behind us, and get on with our lives as an independant nation. Trading and voluntarily cooperating on the things on which we can agree, with our friends and allies in Europe.

 

[Tokyohands]

The problem with revolution in the UK is that us Brits have shown to be not very good at getting behind the 'force for good' characters. Oliver Cromwell anyone?
Now we have Farage as a likely beneficiary, so basically people are fookin it up again and right now i'm glad I don't live there ....

 

[symyjym]

As a Socialist I am an advocate of revolution. I am unconcerned about brexit either way, but I am constantly disgusted by a society built on such iniquity. I believe in democracy, but what we have is a farce. Parliament is just a freak show, full of monkeys sponsored to represent their vested interests. They're not allowed or interested in threatening the powers that rule our society - the City, the Banks, big business, the arms industry, property speculators etc. Just look at the vicious war waged on Corbyn for threatening just a tiny shift in the balance away from the rich. These scumbags won't even give us crumbs from their tables without a fight. Tories, Liberals, Farage, ChangeUk, Tom Watson - are all different sides of the same coin, they all want more austerity, more privatisation, more wars, more social deprivation, more control of organised labour, more tax cuts for the rich, more benefit cuts - some in the EU and the others outside. Just overthrow the lot of them.

Yes we live under the illusion of democracy. We have democratically elected puppets.

We basically vote for a personality that we can "connect with" to act as a middle person for the people who run the show.

Even on a local level the parties come and go but behind the scenes the civil servants direct whoever comes into office and dictate the policies, and write the scripts and letter for them to them.