Yup maybe everyones had a good look now at Sheffield's style which is very unique. It'll be hard to repeat that season
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[Football] Relegation odds 20/21
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Yup maybe everyones had a good look now at Sheffield's style which is very unique. It'll be hard to repeat that season
Braggfan
In the beginning there was nothing, which exploded
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That's my favourite post on here for months, possibly all year. That is such a heart warming thought during these dark times. It is geniunely lovely to dream of a better world.
southstandandy
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This is very much the mini league we're competing in. Suspect Southampton might push on into the top ten but the other 10 clubs listed, together with ourselves will pretty likely be the bottom half of the division. We just need to finish try to finish top of it, although I'd take 15th again now.
Clive Walker
Stand Or Fall
most sites I've seen are offering Brighton at 3/1 and Leeds at 7/2 or 4/1.
blue-shifted
Banned
Who's got Leeds at 4s mate? I want in
The starting point always has to be the three that came up. It is such a hard gap to bridge, throwing money at it, doesn't guarantee anything, ask Fulham, or the very fortunate Villa.
Sheffield United had a massively successful season with a tight knit squad and a style of play, that may not have the surprise element next season. It is extremely hard to strengthen, when you strength is togetherness.
Newcastle flattered to deceive last season and with the promise of new finance to replenish a stale squad, look to be in trouble. The rest of the teams in the bookies opening gambit, look on paper good enough, but there is still a huge amount of luck around injuries, transfers and tight results, all of which can impact form.
Not sure why I am even trying to sound knowledgeable on this. I got taken to the cleaners by the bookies on my season's bets and will have to top up my funds, if I want to play again.
Sheffield United had a massively successful season with a tight knit squad and a style of play, that may not have the surprise element next season. It is extremely hard to strengthen, when you strength is togetherness.
Newcastle flattered to deceive last season and with the promise of new finance to replenish a stale squad, look to be in trouble. The rest of the teams in the bookies opening gambit, look on paper good enough, but there is still a huge amount of luck around injuries, transfers and tight results, all of which can impact form.
Not sure why I am even trying to sound knowledgeable on this. I got taken to the cleaners by the bookies on my season's bets and will have to top up my funds, if I want to play again.
DarrenFreemansPerm
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- Jan 7, 2006
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Listed as 4/1 on SkyBet, Leeds now listed the same on there but was showing 7/2 earlier on. Not much difference I know
blue-shifted
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Promoted teams
2019
Norwich – Rock bottom, shocking at the back
Sheff Utd – Incredible season
Villa – Just survived, may establish themselves
2018
Wolves – Established themselves. Very good side
Fulham – Relegated with a whimper. Yo-yo’d back up yesterday
Cardiff – Relegated, but made play offs. Don't look all that to me
2017
Newcastle – 100s of millions spent. bottom half Prem team
Brighton – 100s of millions spent. bottom half Prem team
Hudds – one decent season, bottom half of championship now
2016
Burnley – Established side, but vulnerable to losing manager and a small number of key players
Boro – lower reaches of Championship
Hull – League one at best
Some have gone on to do ok. More have struggled to establish themselves. Only Wolves look to have sustainably built a top half team
2019
Norwich – Rock bottom, shocking at the back
Sheff Utd – Incredible season
Villa – Just survived, may establish themselves
2018
Wolves – Established themselves. Very good side
Fulham – Relegated with a whimper. Yo-yo’d back up yesterday
Cardiff – Relegated, but made play offs. Don't look all that to me
2017
Newcastle – 100s of millions spent. bottom half Prem team
Brighton – 100s of millions spent. bottom half Prem team
Hudds – one decent season, bottom half of championship now
2016
Burnley – Established side, but vulnerable to losing manager and a small number of key players
Boro – lower reaches of Championship
Hull – League one at best
Some have gone on to do ok. More have struggled to establish themselves. Only Wolves look to have sustainably built a top half team
Blue Valkyrie
Not seen such Bravery!
They look about right, but I'd swap Leeds and Villa.
Our odds will take a hit if Dunk leaves, mind.
Our odds will take a hit if Dunk leaves, mind.
schmunk
Why oh why oh why?
20/21 isn't very good odds at this point - we're as good as down.
FatSuperman
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- Feb 25, 2016
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See also; Huddersfield.
I see these as similar situations, a bit like our decent performance in year 1. You are still riding the togetherness wave, which makes a huge difference no matter the league you are in. It is incredibly hard to maintain that when players start being replaced, and fatigue of 'surviving' kicks in. Burn out from a small squad of core players also contributes. And then, the plummet begins - arresting that slide is pretty challenging, even after you've dropped to the division below, the slide can continue.
Wolves I do see as a different scenario. They clearly have a very talented squad, in my opinion built by nefarious means, but hey ho.
Then you've got the Burnley model. Set up in a very specific way and happy to play that way, despite it being fairly awful to watch. Credit to the club and management for persisting with it - it's about results for them.
Gazwag
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I always enjoy seeing a team that's "too good to go down" go down
- Jan 7, 2006
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SkyBet, Paddy Power and Betfair have all pushed them out to 4/1 now, majority of others have them 7/2
schmunk
Why oh why oh why?
They'd already mostly been found out by the second part of this season - after the restart they only scored 11 points from their 10 games - that's less than we did from our 9.
Jolly Red Giant
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- Jul 11, 2015
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Too early to judge who might go down - transfers will impact on how some teams will do (keeping Grealish would be massive for Villa).
Even now I would fancy Fulham to go down - WBA have been there before and know how to fight, Leeds will throw some money at staying in the PL but it could go belly-up for them. Odds are at least one if not two of them will be relegated anyway and all three could be down within two seasons. After that - anyone of the bottom 12 clubs could end up getting dragged into the mix.
Even now I would fancy Fulham to go down - WBA have been there before and know how to fight, Leeds will throw some money at staying in the PL but it could go belly-up for them. Odds are at least one if not two of them will be relegated anyway and all three could be down within two seasons. After that - anyone of the bottom 12 clubs could end up getting dragged into the mix.
Mo Gosfield
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- Aug 11, 2010
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Wolves are interesting as they are almost a unique project, built around a Portugese manager, a Portugese agent and a core of very good Portugese players ( 7 at the last count ). Their ' sustainability ' in the top half could well depend on this core staying in place. The dynamic in any club can change very quickly and if Nuno were to be tempted away, then the very good progress that Wolves are making as a club could stall. One or two players could follow him and there is no question that the real big boys will be eyeing up Traore. So long as the status quo continues then I think Wolves will do ok. Any changes and I'm not so sure.