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Harty

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Jul 7, 2003
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That Gordon Brown would make the greatest comeback since Lazarus in the next 48 hours.

Well, is Ivor on the level?

Or speaking with fork tongue?
 






Harty

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Jul 7, 2003
1,759
Sussex
But if he goes does that rule out forming a 315plus seat rainbow government with the Lib Dems?
 










larus

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In a perverse way, I wouldn't mind. I would like Labour to have to implement the policies to restructure the deficit and keep the financial markets happy (to enable us to keep borrowing in the short to medium term).

Then the lefties would finally see how much of a mess all of this spending has got us in and realise that you have to live within your means. Then, maybe for once, the left-wing lies about the Tories not caring about public servies would be seen for they are.

The most important issue for any country is the economy; without that, there isn't the tax revenues available to spend on public services. Labour always fucks up the economy. End Of.
 


Dave the OAP

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Jul 5, 2003
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Cameron President, Clegg vice and Vince cable for Chancellor.

Its funny how people are banging on about PR, BUT PR will give us this every time.
 




Harty

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Jul 7, 2003
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Miliband or Johnson for Prime Minister, Clegg for Deputy Prime Minister.

Brown for the role of "great statesman, doing the decent thing, in the national interest".


Ed if you had to put your house on it, who do you think will be in Number 10 as PM on 1st June?
 


DerbyGull

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Mar 5, 2008
4,380
Notts
Miliband or Johnson for Prime Minister, Clegg for Deputy Prime Minister.

Brown for the role of "great statesman, doing the decent thing, in the national interest".

Sounds like a dream team, but is it possible, for Milliband to take over as PM?

I think he'd be better off as just Labour leader in shadow cabinent to get him used to being leader before being crowned king.
 


pasty

A different kind of pasty
Jul 5, 2003
31,032
West, West, West Sussex
Miliband or Johnson for Prime Minister, Clegg for Deputy Prime Minister.

Hm right, that'd be fair then wouldn't it. The country overwhelming vote out a non elected Prime Minister, and you advocate replacing him with another one.
 






Hm right, that'd be fair then wouldn't it. The country overwhelming vote out a non elected Prime Minister, and you advocate replacing him with another one.

I'm not ADVOCATING anything. I'm PREDICTING a possible outcome.

We don't elect prime ministers. We elect members of parliament. I am CERTAIN that the LibDem member of parliament elected in my constituency doesn't want Cameron as prime minister. Neither do his supporters.
 


Harty

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I refer to an earlier thread, Clegg has to get everything rubber stamped at grass roots level and at that level there is a dislike/hatred of the Tory party, which is why I see them being more likely to go with Labour.
 




pasty

A different kind of pasty
Jul 5, 2003
31,032
West, West, West Sussex
I'm not ADVOCATING anything. I'm PREDICTING a possible outcome.

We don't elect prime ministers. We elect members of parliament. I am CERTAIN that the LibDem member of parliament elected in my constituency doesn't want Cameron as prime minister. Neither do his supporters.

And I'm CERTAIN, that absolutely no conservative member of parliament elected in their constituencies across the country don't want Brown/Milliband or anyone else whose party came second in the election to be Prime Minister.
 




And I'm CERTAIN, that absolutely no conservative member of parliament elected in their constituencies across the country don't want Brown/Milliband or anyone else whose party came second in the election to be Prime Minister.
Agreed.

But there aren't enough Conservative MPs to prevent that happening, if Clegg decides to do a deal with Labour. And a deal with Labour might well deliver what the Lib Dems want ... proportional representation, more LibDem MPs, and a permanent role for the LibDems in running the country.
 


withdeanwombat

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Feb 17, 2005
8,731
Somersetshire
I refer to an earlier thread, Clegg has to get everything rubber stamped at grass roots level and at that level there is a dislike/hatred of the Tory party, which is why I see them being more likely to go with Labour.

This is the one hope for stopping the dismally rejected Tories from getting back for a long stretch. LibDem supporters just do not trust the Tories,and their policies are what the LibDems have argued against.Of course,for these leaders who claim to be pulling together in "the national interest",I fear they are pulling together for self interest,to get out of it what they can for themselves,rather like the expenses scandal but on a larger scale.

If Clegg has the national interest at heart he should stand aloof from both parties,which would mean a Tory minority govt until the next election.

Come on LibDems,let the Nation decide !
 




Horses Arse

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Jun 25, 2004
4,571
here and there
In a perverse way, I wouldn't mind. I would like Labour to have to implement the policies to restructure the deficit and keep the financial markets happy (to enable us to keep borrowing in the short to medium term).

Then the lefties would finally see how much of a mess all of this spending has got us in and realise that you have to live within your means. Then, maybe for once, the left-wing lies about the Tories not caring about public servies would be seen for they are.

The most important issue for any country is the economy; without that, there isn't the tax revenues available to spend on public services. Labour always fucks up the economy. End Of.

a greater load of bollocks than spouted by that deluded saints fan. Congratulations!
 


Notters

Well-known member
Oct 20, 2003
24,889
Guiseley
It's not a football match.
Conservatives got the most votes of a single party, but more people voted for left leaning parties than right. :shrug:

But another way of looking at it is that more people voted for the more liberal lib dems and conservatives than the more authoritarian labour party.
 


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