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Receiving a train fine that isn't yours



Danny-Boy

Banned
Apr 21, 2009
5,579
The Coast
I think the fact that the persons name was spelt incorrectly would mean the case be thrown out of court if it ever did get that far. Very very touchy on things like that are the courts. You can't be taken to court as a Mr Blogg if your name is Mr Bloggs.

Or if your number has been taken down as 34046 "Braunton", but they'd have more chance of finding you, eh 34064?
Nerdy rail enthusiasts joke, sorry.
 




tubaman

Member
Nov 2, 2009
748
This is a criminal matter and it is for the prosecution to prove the case beyond all reasonable proof. Therefore, if it was not you, all you have to do is say that you have nothing to do with the incident and that somebody else has given your details. End of story - they will review the evidence and realise that they will not be able to identify you as the person responsible. You don't need to give excuses or other proof;
 


mune ni kamome

Well-known member
Jun 5, 2011
2,220
Worthing
I keep getting demanding letters at home for people who used to live there. I started returning them as "gone away", then opened them (which is not illegal as some may think) and phoned them informing them that the addressee was no longer at the address. Had court summons the lot. I'll wait for the balfits to turn up and tell them to f*** off. There is only so much you can do.

Had this with British gas. Eventually opened the letter to find big demand for the previous people. When I phoned British Gas I said I can give you their address. They said "sorry we can't accept that information as it breaches their human rights"
 


Gwylan

Well-known member
Jul 5, 2003
31,827
Uffern
This is a criminal matter and it is for the prosecution to prove the case beyond all reasonable proof. Therefore, if it was not you, all you have to do is say that you have nothing to do with the incident and that somebody else has given your details. End of story - they will review the evidence and realise that they will not be able to identify you as the person responsible. You don't need to give excuses or other proof;

Is it really that simple? Wouldn't that apply if you were the person who really had been travelling? I'm pretty sure that you have to sign something so that it would be easy to identify they'd got the right person. Of course, that doesn't help the rail company if they have the wrong person but that's tough ...
 


cammac

New member
Nov 12, 2011
93
Eastbourne
Its not about proving to them it wasn't you, let them prove that it was, and as they can`t .. job done!! explain once by letter that they have made a mistake and if they want to push the matter any further then all costs solicitor etc if needed will be forwarded to them.
 




Billy the Fish

Technocrat
Oct 18, 2005
17,594
Haywards Heath
I keep getting demanding letters at home for people who used to live there. I started returning them as "gone away", then opened them (which is not illegal as some may think) and phoned them informing them that the addressee was no longer at the address. Had court summons the lot. I'll wait for the balfits to turn up and tell them to f*** off. There is only so much you can do.

Just ignore all that. I get them for someone who lived in my property 5 years ago. He gets them for outstandin bills with Next, EDF and Southern water - all now with debt collecting agencies. I've been here for two years and nobody's turned up yet.
 


seagullsovergrimsby

#cpfctinpotclub
Aug 21, 2005
43,944
Crap Town
I reckon someone has given name and address details when the guard has caught them traveling on an advance ticket which isn't for the specified time or route.
 


Thunder Bolt

Silly old bat
Had this with British gas. Eventually opened the letter to find big demand for the previous people. When I phoned British Gas I said I can give you their address. They said "sorry we can't accept that information as it breaches their human rights"

Nonsense. I had this problem when we moved. I eventually opened one of the letters from a power company which had been passed on to a debt collecting agency. I rang them, told them the date we had moved in and gave them the address of the estate agency who had handled the sale. They accepted the information and we didn't get any more mail from them.
 




JamesAndTheGiantHead

Well-known member
Sep 2, 2011
6,349
Worthing
Back in highschool I got given a police stop and search form for nicking a Christmas Tree on Christmas Eve whilst heavily under the influence of mischief and skullduggery. Luckily I'd memorised the name and address of a geeky kid at school and gave them that. I imagine this is what has happened to you.
 




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