[Albion] RDZ Post Match Brentford

[Commander]

Or maybe the signings would have kept us in Europe the FA cup and looking good for another European tour next season.

As somebody above said, we spent over £80 million last Summer. How much do you think we should have spent? £100 million? £150 million?

 

[Giraffe]

I've now listened to PBs talksport interview from yesterday twice and have come to the conclusion that we the fans should be running the club,coaching the squad, serving the food and washing the kit and putting 11 of us on the pitch to smash everyone out of site week to week whilst keeping everybody fit and injury free!
Now back in the REAL world...he said that the club want RDZ for many more seasons to come and that RDZ pushes Bloom and co to strive for more than just top 10. What is wrong with that? We the fans would love CL football an FA cup or even a League cup. RDZ may have put his point across better when doing his pressers but at least his honesty and passion came through and Barber confirmed that yesterday. I think all parties will probably have been reflective since the EL exit and this period will hopefully make us as a club even stronger. Having funds available, a fit squad, The club and RDZ singing from the same hymn sheet will mean making next season a really good one. We may have to for go Europe next season but like Barber said you never stop learning.

I agree, I think that is a good summary.

I did however find it interesting in a previous interview on Talksport that PB said Roberto had only spoken to Tony Bloom twice about the January transfer window but had spoken to PB 100 times! I suspect RDZ would like to hear a bit more from the horses mouth, and maybe after a good session with Uncle Tony he feels better about life. That isn't a slight against PB who does a great job by the way, but if I was the manager I'd want a bit more direct access to the ultimate decision maker I think, especially if I wasn't getting the answers I wanted from PB.

 

[Jim in the West]

I agree, I think that is a good summary.

I did however find it interesting in a previous interview on Talksport that PB said Roberto had only spoken to Tony Bloom twice about the January transfer window but had spoken to PB 100 times! I suspect RDZ would like to hear a bit more from the horses mouth, and maybe after a good session with Uncle Tony he feels better about life. That isn't a slight against PB who does a great job by the way, but if I was the manager I'd want a bit more direct access to the ultimate decision maker I think, especially if I wasn't getting the answers I wanted from PB.

I think PB is the ultimate decision maker almost all of the time in everything to do with the operational side of the club. Tony found someone he could trust to run the club, and he's just signed on for another 6 years. I'm sure you're right that RDZ probably wants a decent conversation with TB at some stage - but I think he (RDZ) is incredibly fortunate to have such easy and frequent access to the guy who basically runs the club (PB).

 

[dazzer6666]

Locadia, Jahanbakhsh, dahoud to name but three...

Overall our record is miles ahead of most clubs. No-one who does any reasonable amount of recruitment gets it right all the time, in any industry, anywhere.

 

[dazzer6666]

I agree, I think that is a good summary.

I did however find it interesting in a previous interview on Talksport that PB said Roberto had only spoken to Tony Bloom twice about the January transfer window but had spoken to PB 100 times! I suspect RDZ would like to hear a bit more from the horses mouth, and maybe after a good session with Uncle Tony he feels better about life. That isn't a slight against PB who does a great job by the way, but if I was the manager I'd want a bit more direct access to the ultimate decision maker I think, especially if I wasn't getting the answers I wanted from PB.

I suspect he‘s found out, after speaking to TB, that Bloom and Barber are 100% aligned and the constant messages he’s been getting have been reinforced……

 

[GT49er]

All depends what you mean by “some of the cash”? £20m or £30m then yes more than likely. £70-90m? Then no.

Completely agree. I would actually be quite disappointed if the club started lashing out that sort of money - it would be a drastic breakaway from the model which all of us - or nearly all of us anyway - are fully behind.

Why do you say that? we spent more than 80m quid last summer

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Not on one player we didn't! And I hope we don't. There may well be some FFP bargains in the summer, and with £122M profit, yes, we could theoretically write our a cheque for £50 or £60M - but those players will be on £100-£150K a week, and will expect at least the same, if not an improved contract - which is why they won't be coming to Brighton.
We might break our £30M transfer record we paid for Pedro, but not smash it altogether by doubling it!

 

[Tom Hark Preston Park]

I think PB is the ultimate decision maker almost all of the time in everything to do with the operational side of the club. Tony found someone he could trust to run the club, and he's just signed on for another 6 years. I'm sure you're right that RDZ probably wants a decent conversation with TB at some stage - but I think he (RDZ) is incredibly fortunate to have such easy and frequent access to the guy who basically runs the club (PB).

This, completely. PBOBE allows TB to maintain a largely hands-off approach. PBOBE is clearly entrusted with implementing the over-arching strategy for the club that is set by TB

 

[Superphil]

I thought Barber gave mixed messages about him on his Talk S weekly slot. He’s happy here but…. We are bracing ourselves and have a contingency plan.

That was from selling Cucurella and White the wasn't it? Don't think we performed any worse last season after they had gone did we?

 

[tstanbur]

Completely agree. I would actually be quite disappointed if the club started lashing out that sort of money - it would be a drastic breakaway from the model which all of us - or nearly all of us anyway - are fully behind.


Not on one player we didn't! And I hope we don't. There may well be some FFP bargains in the summer, and with £122M profit, yes, we could theoretically write our a cheque for £50 or £60M - but those players will be on £100-£150K a week, and will expect at least the same, if not an improved contract - which is why they won't be coming to Brighton.
We might break our £30M transfer record we paid for Pedro, but not smash it altogether by doubling it!

Who mentioned spending it on one player?

 

[GT49er]

Who mentioned spending it on one player?

That was clearly the OP's point. And I completely agree with them.

There's a world of difference between spending £80M and buying an £80M player.

 

[Clive Walker]

Sounds like people are finally realising who runs the show. Yes bloom sets the culture and strategy but barber executes it daily. Bloom never gets involved in negotiations. He trusts barber and co to do this. Barber confirmed it last year but NSC was still flooded with lizard this poker genius that during the Moises fiasco.

The strategy of the club is sacrasanct to barber and bloom. RDZ may have thought it wasn’t last year and into Jan. He does now and it sounds like he doesn’t agree with the policy completely but accepts it. The noises he’s making are more about voicing his frustration and explaining why this season is different to last.

Whether he is happy enough to stay while the club continues within these boundaries is up to him. But barber and bloom will not sway from their position and I am for one am content with that.

The idea that RDZ would like more direct convos with bloom is a new one for me but I deffo think that could be a possibility as he may wish to get his own point over to the top dog to see if he gets a different response from what barber has so far said.

 

[tstanbur]

That was clearly the OP's point. And I completely agree with them.

There's a world of difference between spending £80M and buying an £80M player.

He wasn't the OP and was responding to someone else "clearly" talking about multiple transfers.

For what it's worth I agree with you too, would rather buy a 2-3 more 30-40m Pedros than chuck it all at one player.

 

[GT49er]

He wasn't the OP and was responding to someone else "clearly" talking about multiple transfers.

For what it's worth I agree with you too, would rather buy a 2-3 more 30-40m Pedros than chuck it all at one player.

I was using 'the OP' in the sense that he was the person you were replying too, but no prob. - nothing to get worked up about. Just hope too many people don't start moaning if we don't spaff £80M plus a further £7M a year in wages on one player!

 

[ozzygull]

Seems like he realises that what he has been saying has been misunderstood. Or he has been told off for being naughty



But does seem to tie in with what PBOBE was saying about RDZ in this interview.

 

[Mancgull]

Interesting and positive.

 

[Zeberdi]

I had this conversation last night with the lads we all agreed we wouldn’t of gone mental (if we were owners of the club) although we would of backed RDZ more this season especially with injuries and European travels.
It’s not an extreme let’s spend a billion like you are implying.

You can’t have it both ways - we stay sustainable and on our current overall trajectory or we buy ourselves a season for maybe a European quarter final and top 6 place or we risk backsliding/losing our direction. PB and TB chose not to sacrifice the long term ethos (which has proven overwhelmingly that it is working for us) in exchange for a short term fix - and it would have been short term as we are not yet up to the sort of turnover we require to pad out the squad with a load of high maintenance players to sit on the bench if there is no room for them on the team. Give it a few more seasons, a few more European rounds, a higher place finish on the table and increased tv coverage … we will become better at absorbing injuries - we deepen our squad incrementally and in line with our income - we still operate at a loss (so do all clubs afaik, that’s top flight football) so perhaps that’s worth bearing in mind before moaning about TB’s lack of investment in January.

 

[Justice]

When you mention signings why does everyone automatically think it’s going to be £200m we haven’t replaced the departed midfielders as yet and that includes the unlucky Mwepu. Take our early form run out of the equation and we would be looking over our shoulders on recent form. Two wins in half a season if everyone’s happy with that then cool I guess.

 

[London Irish]

It’s genuinely astonishing that you can’t see that the team being slightly weaker one year but the club being in the most incredibly good position of pretty much any club in the country is an absolutely amazing thing for the Albion.

Your outlook compared to Bloom’s outlook is basically the difference between the Chelsea approach and the Brighton approach.

This is going to become a very boring forum if every fan who wants squad strengthening is told they are “Chelsea”. Maybe there is more than just two approaches in the entire wide world of football

 

[Sid and the Sharknados]

This is going to become a very boring forum if every fan who wants squad strengthening is told they are “Chelsea”. Maybe there is more than just two approaches in the entire wide world of football

Alternatively, we go through some sort of Stalinist purges to establish there's only ONE approach to football.

That would add some excitement to proceedings.

 

[London Irish]

I really hope you are jesting old boy.

Quite simply the return of Potter would effectively split the fanbase.

And TB and PBOBE might be a lot of things but they aren’t stupid

Arguably tho such is the reverence for the board that in the unlikely event of it ever happening, it would be accepted quite quickly - and a couple of wins in, even the verbal protests would disappear