[Albion] RDZ goodbye speech in full.

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Commander

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God - its not all about money. I hope you wouldn't want a Middle Eastern state or some mega mega rich oil tycoon with no affiliation to the club taking over? I couldn't think of anything worse.
Same. I'd be watching Haywards Heath Town every week if that happened.
 


dwayne

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God - its not all about money. I hope you wouldn't want a Middle Eastern state or some mega mega rich oil tycoon with no affiliation to the club taking over? I couldn't think of anything worse.
Theres a correlation between money spent and league position. Everyone knows that. Would I want it, not sure.
 


MJsGhost

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What a disaster losing this fella. Madness
Madness would be letting the tail wag the dog.

Undoubtedly a talented, charismatic coach and he has delivered some epic highs.

If he's not bought into the club's strategy (which was by all accounts made abundantly clear from the outset and multiple times), then it's never going to work long term.

Thanks for the memories and good luck (outside the EPL) RdZ, but you are not bigger than the club.

I'm excited for the next chapter.
 


hans kraay fan club

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I just think it’s sad, I don’t think Tony is wrong, I don’t really think Roberto is either but I sense they are both very stubborn and kind of wish you could bang their heads together and make them sort things out.
There is no possibility they could ever have 'sorted this out'.

The club has a recruitment process, and a wage structure that best serves the club's mid-long term security and success. Any head coach in position, is bound by those structures.

If De Zerbi walked into his showdown meeting and (as seems apparent) said "I would like to stay - on condition that you change this, this and this", then he might as well not have turned up. They would never have budged - and rightly so.

Why would you change your long-held, very successful processes, to appease the ego of a peripatetic manager, who would have grizzled for yet more players when his next personal picks flopped, and then f***ed off anyway as soon as a 'beeg' club came in for him.
 






Silverhatch

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Are Newcastle fooked ? They have a decent squad now. Probably just need a proper manager.

Chelsea are back on track as well.
They’re both really up against PSR. Chelsea are flogging off assets to themselves to meet financial limits (non-PL sanctioned) and’ll probably fall foul of UEFA regs. And, to reiterate, Newcastle has squillions of billions but cannot just throw money at the problem anymore. Money is the final arbiter but it’s not the only answer - especially for a club that has spent 80% of its existence in the lower leagues.
 


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Theres a correlation between money spent and league position. Everyone knows that. Would I want it, not sure.

Comfortable with a Middle East state owning us?

I do think quite a few fans would go full on towels on the head joy, a la Newcastle, if it did happen though :down:

Every United fan I spoke to at the semi final would have preferred a Qatar takeover to Ratcliffe, which shocked me
 




ROSM

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There is no possibility they could ever have 'sorted this out'.

The club has a recruitment process, and a wage structure that best serves the club's mid-long term security and success. Any head coach in position, is bound by those structures.

If De Zerbi walked into his showdown meeting and (as seems apparent) said "I would like to stay - on condition that you change this, this and this", then he might as well not have turned up. They would never have budged - and rightly so.

Why would you change your long-held, very successful processes, to appease the ego of a peripatetic manager, who would have grizzled for yet more players when his next personal picks flopped, and then f***ed off anyway as soon as a 'beeg' club came in for him.
I think there are two extreme positions bring presented and I suspect the reality is somewhere in between.

We could all see the gaps last summer and jan and I'm.not sure it would have taken fortunes to fix it. But it would have been a different mix

Of course bloom is well within his rights to say 'no'
 


abc

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I disagree. I imagine RDZ is an absolute pain in the arse to manage, and when Bloom has put half a billion quid of his own money into the club and designed a model that has taken us from League One to the Europa League, it must be pretty galling being called out publicly by some guy who's been at the club 18 months for not investing enough. I'd have sacked him long ago.

Have to say I actually found the send off he got a little nauseating. It was as if he'd been here 10 years and had won 5 trophies. When the reality is he took over a brilliant squad, got us playing some exceptional football for 12 months, and then couldn't adapt or turn things around when things started going wrong, so resorted to blaming the owner.

Thanks for the memories mate, good luck wherever you go and all that but we need someone a bit more rounded and level-headed than you.
Word for word absolutely spot on
 


I disagree. I imagine RDZ is an absolute pain in the arse to manage, and when Bloom has put half a billion quid of his own money into the club and designed a model that has taken us from League One to the Europa League, it must be pretty galling being called out publicly by some guy who's been at the club 18 months for not investing enough. I'd have sacked him long ago.

Have to say I actually found the send off he got a little nauseating. It was as if he'd been here 10 years and had won 5 trophies. When the reality is he took over a brilliant squad, got us playing some exceptional football for 12 months, and then couldn't adapt or turn things around when things started going wrong, so resorted to blaming the owner.

Thanks for the memories mate, good luck wherever you go and all that but we need someone a bit more rounded and level-headed than you.
I'm delighted to read the brilliant reception for Rob yesterday got right up your nose, well done Brighton fans :thumbsup:
 






No way was he going to stay more than 2 or 3 years whatever happened - he never has, and not many managers do. Bend to his demands and the club could be ****ed for several seasons - that would be the disaster.
Well I for one simply don't believe the only two options for the club are £122m profits or bankruptcy. Anyway good luck to the next fella or the one after that, the way it works in recent Albion history is that they often tend to get what the guy who was sacked was asking for
 


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Well I for one simply don't believe the only two options for the club are £122m profits or bankruptcy. Anyway good luck to the next fella or the one after that, the way it works in recent Albion history is that they often tend to get what the guy who was sacked was asking for
Me neither - doubt the lack of 'shared vision' was simply down to transfer budgets
 




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I'm delighted to read the brilliant reception for Rob yesterday got right up your nose, well done Brighton fans :thumbsup:
Did it? It didn't feel like that when I was standing there applauding him, telling my two kids he'd given us the best two (1.5) seasons I've seen in 35 years of watching . But I guess you know best.
 


Did it? It didn't feel like that when I was standing there applauding him, telling my two kids he'd given us the best two (1.5) seasons I've seen in 35 years of watching . But I guess you know best.
"Have to say I actually found the send off he got a little nauseating" - you must have a word with yourself about that lol
 


Me neither - doubt the lack of 'shared vision' was simply down to transfer budgets
Do tell? What else would have it been about, genuinely interested to know if I'm missing something obvious
 


Commander

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"Have to say I actually found the send off he got a little nauseating" - you must have a word with yourself about that lol
Do you really not think it was perhaps a bit much, for a guy who has had 1.5 good seasons with us? Don't get me wrong, he did a great job, and I was fully bought into him until a couple of months ago. But we have been crap since January.

Look at our last ten games:

LDLDLLWDLL

How many clubs would give a manager a send off like that with that record, who had been at the club for less than 2 years? Very. very few.
 






dazzer6666

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Do tell? What else would have it been about, genuinely interested to know if I'm missing something obvious
Degree of influence on transfer decisions ? Decisions to send players out on loan (for example been reported he wanted Barco to be loaned out - doubt that was in the club's plan) ? Training methods (are injuries in part down to his approach ?) ? Will the incoming medical guys have more power than DeZ wants ? Could be any number of issues that are part of it.

I don't know - just speculating but it's extremely simplistic to assume it's just down to spending.
 


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