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[Albion] Rate Albion's centre-backs from the 2020/21 season
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Cowfold Seagull
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I think the nature of the red card is largely irrelevant. Whatever the offence that led to the card, it still means an automatic ban. Either way it still means a ban for the miscreant player.
But to get back to the point of the thread, Dunk for me was our best defender, probably a bit better in the air than the other two, and puts his body on the line when shots come raining in on goal. As for Webster and White? both fine defenders and impossible to say who is the better player.
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Given the wing backs England have at their disposal they could do a lot worse than play a tried & tested back 3 of White/Dunk/Webster.
Given the wing backs England have at their disposal they could do a lot worse than play a tried & tested back 3 of White/Dunk/Webster.
Withdean11
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All pretty much even I'd say. Each have different qualities which they excel in.
I think it's probably a lot closer than some people would admit. I think there is a bias toward Dunk because of tenure rather than performance.
I seem to remember:
Dunk being off form early season, with a lot of comments along the lines of 'that's why he's not in the England team'. Then late season there was his second red card that prompted similar comments. I don't think this has been Dunk's best season, but he did regain form in the middle bit, and got a significant portion of the team's goals this year.
Webster missed a chunk because of injury, but he was doing really well early in the season before the injury, with a lot of people rating him above Dunk, then taking a couple of games to get up to full fitness (though not sure I remember any glaring error during this regaining fitness period)
White showing consistency throughout the whole season, along with flexibiulity as he was moved around to accommodate others. A skill that shouldn't be overlooked, and almost certainly palyed a part in his England selection.
I seem to remember:
Dunk being off form early season, with a lot of comments along the lines of 'that's why he's not in the England team'. Then late season there was his second red card that prompted similar comments. I don't think this has been Dunk's best season, but he did regain form in the middle bit, and got a significant portion of the team's goals this year.
Webster missed a chunk because of injury, but he was doing really well early in the season before the injury, with a lot of people rating him above Dunk, then taking a couple of games to get up to full fitness (though not sure I remember any glaring error during this regaining fitness period)
White showing consistency throughout the whole season, along with flexibiulity as he was moved around to accommodate others. A skill that shouldn't be overlooked, and almost certainly palyed a part in his England selection.
Agree with this. Although I voted Dunk / White / Webster there's really very little in it.
Between the two "England candidates" (and surely even NSC now has to admit that Southgate will never pick Dunk again) Dunk has scored more, is better in the air and at accurate long balls. White has bette discipline, a better tackles won percentage and prefers shorter passes to clearances or long ones. Webster sits sort of in the middle but really adds a goal threat when he takes it forward. For a CB his dribbling is fantastic.
Very lucky to have all three.
Meanwhile, centre back is going to be a very interesting position for England at the Euros. I don't trust Mings (who is in because he's left footed and will play LCB), don't think Slabhead will make a single group game and Stones can't afford to revert to the old "nice player but can't defend" that he was a while ago. If we play 3 CBs as seems likely from White's selection, it may only take a mistake or a little knock for BW to be playing tournament football.
1. Webster;
2. Dunk;
3. White.
2. Dunk;
3. White.
You’d be pretty shocked with the results of a forensic examination on Dunk’s mistakes in the 1st half of the season.
Off the top of my head...
1. Chelsea - point blank header missed.
2. Man Utd - Poor block leading to goal plus allowing Maguire to outmuscled him and score.
3. West Ham - flick on for their goal.
4. Sheff Utd - failed to cut out cross for their goal.
4. Wolves - failed to cut out cross for their 1st goal.
5. Man City - Moves out of the defensive line creating the hole for Foden to run into and score.
These sorts of mistakes largely get ignored by the fan base (because he is one of our own) but would be all over social media if it had been Burn, White or even Webster.
Uh_huh_him
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- Sep 28, 2011
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Is the correct answer.
Each adds something different to the strength of our defence.
Having seen BW at close-quarters against City, he is a lot better than I thought he was from just watching on telly.
Pushed him up in my estimation from being a good prospect, to being the real deal.
You are right. He is an outstanding defender and it's a no brainer he should be in this England squad but he does get a way with a hell of a lot from Brighton fans that other players don't.
I've said it before, that song we used to sing about Sidwell shagging our wives, I think if Dunk actually did that Brighton fans would happily just let him get on with it and probably offer up their sisters and mothers at the same time too.
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Weststander
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As purely defenders - Webster, Dunk (he had a slump in form mid season), then White.
But White offered so much more going forward throughout last season.
But White offered so much more going forward throughout last season.
schmunk
Why oh why oh why?
And yet it was Ben White who tonked the ball up into the air against Palace, giving them the possession which led to Benteke's injury time winner. If we'd drawn that match we'd have finished above Palace in the league...
Webster,Dunk, White for me.
Before his injury, Webbo was going great guns and had a good chance of making the England squad. His injury,not surprisingly set him back a bit, but he came through that and was playing well again.
Dunky was below par during early season, but happily regained form and scored some vital goals.Shame about his silly red card though.
For me, Ben played very well in his first Premier season, but obviously has some way to go. Yes, he is versatile, but from memory, some of his midfield performances drew criticism. A fine footballer, but I wonder whether the hype around him was slightly overdone and helped propel him into the England squad.
Anyway, we have some cracking defenders......I love ‘em all.
Before his injury, Webbo was going great guns and had a good chance of making the England squad. His injury,not surprisingly set him back a bit, but he came through that and was playing well again.
Dunky was below par during early season, but happily regained form and scored some vital goals.Shame about his silly red card though.
For me, Ben played very well in his first Premier season, but obviously has some way to go. Yes, he is versatile, but from memory, some of his midfield performances drew criticism. A fine footballer, but I wonder whether the hype around him was slightly overdone and helped propel him into the England squad.
Anyway, we have some cracking defenders......I love ‘em all.
Dick Swiveller
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With Webster similar - that is why I put White first for least mistakes.
Hotchilidog
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Three quality centre backs. I went for Dunk, Webster, White but really, we are splitting hairs here, we are so fortunate to have three players that look set to become the one of the best back threes in the country.
I did think at the beginning of the season, White took some time to adjust the quality of the premier league. There were the odd moments where forwards did lose him and would punish us accordingly. What has impressed me most about Ben's performances this season, is that from that shaky start he has knuckled down, worked hard and got up to speed. This all culminated win his superb marshalling of Phil Foden in the final home game of the season. Yes Foden did beat him for the second goal, but that is what world class players do sometimes, it's why they are at the top of the game. The rest of the game however, Foden was neutralised, in my opinion the best English player in the division snuffed out by an emerging talent.
Keeping this back three and BBB together for years to come should be a priority for the Albion. They are the foundations on which we can build any future success.
I did think at the beginning of the season, White took some time to adjust the quality of the premier league. There were the odd moments where forwards did lose him and would punish us accordingly. What has impressed me most about Ben's performances this season, is that from that shaky start he has knuckled down, worked hard and got up to speed. This all culminated win his superb marshalling of Phil Foden in the final home game of the season. Yes Foden did beat him for the second goal, but that is what world class players do sometimes, it's why they are at the top of the game. The rest of the game however, Foden was neutralised, in my opinion the best English player in the division snuffed out by an emerging talent.
Keeping this back three and BBB together for years to come should be a priority for the Albion. They are the foundations on which we can build any future success.
Dancin Ninja BHA
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Dunk, Webster, White (honourable mention also to the Dutch man at this point)