rapist in Hove a warning just received by email

[Buzzer]

at risk of making you look like you have no idea what you're talking about, I've never been on a diversity course in three years in the job, and there's no general policy of sending officers on them, at least not in Sussex.

Not unless you display the sort of attitude shown in one of the posts above, in which case I'd respectfully suggest you deserve it.

There are numerous things that are a total waste of police time, the vast majority, dare I say it, generated by the general public (the same public who moan about insufficient police on the streets), but diversity courses aren't one of them.

And for the hundredth time, nor is smoking legislation, as it's the local authorities' job to enforce.

Yep... the police's job would be so much easier without the general public wasting your time.

...and I should have clarified my remarks about smokers sorry. I had read a report about police in Redbridge hassling pub goers standing outside smoking whilst holding their pints. Apologies for not making it clearer.

Notice you didn't disagree with the comment about motorists though

 

[Collar Feeler]

Of course the answer to every problem is 'get more bobbies on the beat'. When are people ever going to realise that whilst a few coppers on foot patrol might help in some areas it is not a blanket cure all to solve all crime everywhere. For a start there are ten times as many immediate response calls these days than in the 60s and 70s, this requires a car so inevitably we are all responding in cars. the of course we get the stock reply, "you should be out catching murderers and rapists and burglars not victimising motorists etc etc..." Generally murderers, rapists and burglars tend not to advertise the fact in public so are quite difficult to spot believe it or not. And why shouldn't I occasionally be out dealing with motorists committing offences?? Part of my job is ensuring the roads are safe for everyone to use so if that means dishing out tickets to tossers using their mobiles, motorists and cyclists going through red lights, people driving like utter cocks or parking on pedestrian crossings then I have absolutely no problem with that and take great pleasure in it. Not only that but all the shitbag burglars and thieves and junkies all drive crap motors that aren't taxed or insured so they are relatively easy meat if you cathc them driving.

 

[Collar Feeler]

As for the general public wasting our time, you might not like to hear that but it's true, as a front line copper in Brighton for the last 5 years i would say that for every 10 jobs that come in that we get assigned to over half of them are complete bollocks.

Some typical real life examples include:
1. I'm getting harrassed by my neighbour - Outcome = neighbour was ditching empty snail shells into next doors compost heap.
2. My ex boyfriend is threatening to kill me. Outcome = Ex boyfriend now living in Scotland sent one text to clingy ex girlfriend saying, "Leave me the f*** alone, I wish you would go away and die".
3. I've just been viciously assaulted in the street. Outcome = Drug dealer got beaten up and robbed for screwing someone over a deal. Didn't want to talk to us, give a statement or tell us who had done it.
4. A car is parked over my drive. Outcome = No its not you just don't like people parking outside your house.

So shit jobs like these prevent me from dealing with the people who really need my help such as perhaps spending an hour on foot patrol in the area where the indecent assaults are taking place.

 

[bn3gunner]

a high proportion of coppers ive met are clueless tossers

 

[Barrel of Fun]

I honestly don't know why people have problems with the police. I have always found them useful and courteous and passionate about their jobs. I doubt many people would go through the crap they do, if they didn't like their work.

Maybe it is a personal thing and the critics have had run ins?

 

[Yorkie]

As someone who handles the cases in the magistrates courts (which is everything as even murders go there first before crown court) I can say that a relatively small number are traffic offences and that includes drunk drivers. We all know that drink driving is a dangerous thing which kills more people than murderers do.

 

[magoo]

well i'm not a huge fan of rap but i hardly think it's an arrestable offence!

 

[bristolseagull]

Yes it's a well known fact that anybody who has a tan or an accent is bound to be a pervert

im a pervert, but dont have a tan or an accent...........

 

[Buzzer]

Of course the answer to every problem is 'get more bobbies on the beat'. When are people ever going to realise that whilst a few coppers on foot patrol might help in some areas it is not a blanket cure all to solve all crime everywhere. For a start there are ten times as many immediate response calls these days than in the 60s and 70s, this requires a car so inevitably we are all responding in cars. the of course we get the stock reply, "you should be out catching murderers and rapists and burglars not victimising motorists etc etc..." Generally murderers, rapists and burglars tend not to advertise the fact in public so are quite difficult to spot believe it or not. And why shouldn't I occasionally be out dealing with motorists committing offences?? Part of my job is ensuring the roads are safe for everyone to use so if that means dishing out tickets to tossers using their mobiles, motorists and cyclists going through red lights, people driving like utter cocks or parking on pedestrian crossings then I have absolutely no problem with that and take great pleasure in it. Not only that but all the shitbag burglars and thieves and junkies all drive crap motors that aren't taxed or insured so they are relatively easy meat if you cathc them driving.

Sorry, you haven't convinced me that police don't pick motorists because a) it's so easy. b) it makes statistics look good c)by and large, motorists are law-abiding, cause little fuss and pay up.

Yes, I know it's annoying when cyclists jump red lights but a sense of proportionality ought to apply. Tossers go berserk on drink at weekends and are let out of the police cells with a slapped wrist but woe betide the motorist doing 100 mph on a motorway. Who's the worse criminal? ...and if it's so easy to spot uninsured motors why are there so many on the road?

Sorry if it seems like I'm making ill-informed generalisations but I think my view is a very commonly held view and perception is often reality. The police do themselves no favours at times with the heavy-handed approach they take to soft targets and the 'us and them' attitude I've come across from my experiences with police do nothing to break down the barriers.

 

[Collar Feeler]

Sorry, you haven't convinced me that police don't pick motorists because a) it's so easy. b) it makes statistics look good c)by and large, motorists are law-abiding, cause little fuss and pay up.

Yes, I know it's annoying when cyclists jump red lights but a sense of proportionality ought to apply. Tossers go berserk on drink at weekends and are let out of the police cells with a slapped wrist but woe betide the motorist doing 100 mph on a motorway. Who's the worse criminal? ...and if it's so easy to spot uninsured motors why are there so many on the road?

Sorry if it seems like I'm making ill-informed generalisations but I think my view is a very commonly held view and perception is often reality. The police do themselves no favours at times with the heavy-handed approach they take to soft targets and the 'us and them' attitude I've come across from my experiences with police do nothing to break down the barriers.

I'm not trying to convince you of anything. Personally, dealing with motoring offences isn't top of my list of priorities but if it happens in front of me i can't just ignore it because its in my job description to deal with it. Its certainly no easier or harder to deal with than any other person we might deal with in a crime related matter. Not sure what statistics you are referring to but I'm not measured, targeted or have any performance indicators whatsoever in relation to motorists or traffic offences, on the contrary i have all of those things in relation to crime incidents so I actually get no points or thanks from my superiors for using my time dealing with motorists. It's worth pointing out to you that we do actually have a separate Traffic Police dept whose actual job it is to deal with motorists and traffic offences, its what they do it's their role. moaning about them stopping poor innocent law abiding motorists is akin to complaining to a greengrocer for selling carrots.

If you've ever attended a fatal road accident where a cyclist running a red light has been squashed under a bus and had to deal with the traumatised driver and passengers perhaps your sense of proprtionality might be a little bit closer to mine. And yes uninsured drivers are relatively easy to catch, why are there so many on the road? I don't know, presumably those that are caught once they have been dealt with by the courts go out, buy a car and drive it again without getting insurance again. f*** all I can do to prevent that is there? Unless of course you want us to jail all those law abiding motorists that drive without insurance? your call, make some suggestions? Finally I find that if you dont break the law and drive normally without committing offences then you won't get to speak to me. People that moan and complain about the police the loudest in my experience don't fall into that category..

 

[Norman Baker suck my lozenge]

at risk of making you look like you have no idea what you're talking about, I've never been on a diversity course in three years in the job, and there's no general policy of sending officers on them, at least not in Sussex.

Not unless you display the sort of attitude shown in one of the posts above, in which case I'd respectfully suggest you deserve it.

There are numerous things that are a total waste of police time, the vast majority, dare I say it, generated by the general public (the same public who moan about insufficient police on the streets), but diversity courses aren't one of them.

And for the hundredth time, nor is smoking legislation, as it's the local authorities' job to enforce.

f***ing old bill,
much use as tits on a nun.

 

[mcshane in the 79th]

No reply then!!!!

No thought not!!

Try reading other people's posts first

 

[nobody's dupe]

Sorry, you haven't convinced me that police don't pick motorists because a) it's so easy. b) it makes statistics look good c)by and large, motorists are law-abiding, cause little fuss and pay up.QUOTE]



" . . . . . . by and large motorists are law-abiding?" What planet do you live on? Ninety-nine per cent of drivers wouldn't be able to keep to the speed limit if they tried. The fact that kids and elderly people are supposed to be protected by a thirty miles per hour speed limit passes them by. The only time the majority of drivers abide by this law is when they are aware that there is a camera or a police radar implement in the vicinity. Every driver is aware of the speed limits, but it only a limited few who do not deliberately choose to break the law.

 

[Paddy B]

Awful lot of uninformed drivel posted on this thread. I am happy to say that I know many people in the force and all of them (bar none) are top people who I would happily (and do) get drunk with.

As for wasting their time victimising motorists, arent most motoring convictions are via speed cameras?and lets not lose sight of the fact that speeding kills - fact

The police do an exceptionally difficult job so why not try and let them do it?

 

[bosnian]

at risk of making you look like you have no idea what you're talking about, I've never been on a diversity course in three years in the job, and there's no general policy of sending officers on them, at least not in Sussex..

That maybe the case that there is no general policy of sending officers on those type of course's but diversity is incorporated into all training within the police force and I would imagine most public sector jobs.

 

[bosnian]

at risk of making you look like you have no idea what you're talking about, I've never been on a diversity course in three years in the job, and there's no general policy of sending officers on them, at least not in Sussex..

That maybe the case that there is no general policy of sending officers on those type of course's but diversity is incorporated into all training within the police force and I would imagine most public sector jobs.