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BensGrandad

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Jul 13, 2003
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Just been stopped on what was the A272 ( now B2272) going into Haywards Heath and wife was asked if she had been drinking which she hadnt so no problem. Is this a good idea taking into account people having BBQs etc. I think that it is as I never have even 1 drink and then drive. What is other peoples opinions?
 




Leekbrookgull

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Jul 14, 2005
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Just been stopped on what was the A272 ( now B2272) going into Haywards Heath and wife was asked if she had been drinking which she hadnt so no problem. Is this a good idea taking into account people having BBQs etc. I think that it is as I never have even 1 drink and then drive. What is other peoples opinions?

Simple here,Why were stopped ? Secondly BBQ,s were you are at a Focus Car Boot Sale ?
 


hans kraay fan club

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Mar 16, 2005
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I didn't think they were allowed to stop you without ANY cause for suspicion, but personally don't object.
 


8ace

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Jul 21, 2003
23,811
Brighton
Just been stopped on what was the A272 ( now B2272) going into Haywards Heath and wife was asked if she had been drinking which she hadnt so no problem. Is this a good idea taking into account people having BBQs etc. I think that it is as I never have even 1 drink and then drive. What is other peoples opinions?

It's a popular dogging site, people often get stopped there - especially at this time of year.
 


Miximate

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Aug 30, 2012
1,193
Mid Sussex
Random stopping of vehicles is perfectly legit to establish whether someone has been drinking...random breath tests is not legit. There is a subtle difference. If you think about the Christmas Drink/Drive campaigns, it is simply being repeated (under a summer campaign badge).

Not a problem as far as I am concerned, if it saves 1 life or stops an injury RTC, then its all worthwhile
 






Lady Whistledown

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Jul 7, 2003
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I didn't think they were allowed to stop you without ANY cause for suspicion, but personally don't object.

They can stop you at any moment they want to if you're driving a motor vehicle on a road, in order to establish who is driving and their qualifications to do so.

They can require a breath test from you for one of three reasons: (1) they suspect you've consumed alcohol (2) you've committed a moving traffic offence (3) you've been involved in a road traffic collision.
 


hans kraay fan club

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They can stop you at any moment they want to if you're driving a motor vehicle on a road, in order to establish who is driving and their qualifications to do so.

They can require a breath test from you for one of three reasons: (1) they suspect you've consumed alcohol (2) you've committed a moving traffic offence (3) you've been involved in a road traffic collision.


Thanks. So asking if BG's wife had been drinking is okay then. If there HAD been a 'random breath test' that would not.
 




Lady Whistledown

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Thanks. So asking if BG's wife had been drinking is okay then. If there HAD been a 'random breath test' that would not.

Well. I'd ask if she'd had a drink. If she said yes, I'd test her. If she said no, but I could smell alcohol in the car, or she displayed other evidence of having had something to drink, (or taken drugs) I'd test her anyway.
 


hans kraay fan club

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Well. I'd ask if she'd had a drink. If she said yes, I'd test her. If she said no, but I could smell alcohol in the car, or she displayed other evidence of having had something to drink, (or taken drugs) I'd test her anyway.

Sure. But if she smelled of alcohol or displayed other evidence of having had a drink, then your test would no longer be 'random'.
 






Lady Whistledown

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Sure. But if she smelled of alcohol or displayed other evidence of having had a drink, then your test would no longer be 'random'.

Nope. No random tests. Random stops, but no random tests.

Equally, you could go through a red light, or have a brake light out, or fail to wear your seatbelt, all of which would provide a police officer with grounds to require a breath specimen, which, if you refused to provide, you could be arrested for.
 


clippedgull

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Aug 11, 2003
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I fully support the police in any anti drink / drug driving initiaves. Better to be safe than sorry. Anyone who thinks otherwise hasn't had to attend a fatal road traffic accident. (I haven't, but I can imagine it's one of the worse jobs of being a police/paramedic/fireman. Respect to the services from me.
 


Lady Whistledown

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There'll be plenty of roadside drug tests this summer, given the new legislation which came into force in March :thumbsup:


 




clippedgull

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Aug 11, 2003
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Nope. No random tests. Random stops, but no random tests.

Equally, you could go through a red light, or have a brake light out, or fail to wear your seatbelt, all of which would provide a police officer with grounds to require a breath specimen, which, if you refused to provide, you could be arrested for.

Re. Brake lights out, you would think that manufacturers should be compelled by law to put warning signs up on the dashboard if one fails!
 


Lady Whistledown

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Re. Brake lights out, you would think that manufacturers should be compelled by law to put warning signs up on the dashboard if one fails!

Some cars have that function (BMWs for example). And I think most cars will do that thing where the indicators flash really rapidly if one of them has blown.

Not on BMWs, obviously, as they don't require them.

Just kidding, BMW drivers of the board :wave:
 


vegster

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May 5, 2008
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I think its fair for the police to assume that Ben's Grandad's wife would have been drinking behind the wheel, mind you, there are obvious mitigating circumstances.
 






easynow

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Mar 17, 2013
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jakarta
I've watched enough motorway police shows to know these measures are very necessary. Don't take it personally, OP. It's just routine police stuff that gets the real offenders off the road.
 


OzMike

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Oct 2, 2006
13,282
Perth Australia
RBT's are a way of life here and are conducted routinely on a daily basis over here, as well as random roadside drug testing.
There are also 'booze buses', which appear randomly at road sides for a period of time and then move on to other sites around the clock.
I think that they are a good idea and a good deterrent as you never know where they are until you come across them, by which time it is too late to change direction and they have motorcycle cops keeping close watch on the oncoming traffic to stop anyone trying to get away.
 


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