[Travel] Railway flustercuck

[portlock seagull]

But where are we going to find someone to give the people hope?

We just need to find the sniper who keeps firing at Neymar

 

[pasty]

Bugger. Looks ok this morning, Was hoping for an extra wfh today

 

[bobbysmith01]

I did the West Worthing to London Bridge daily commute about 10 years ago. I lasted a year and looking back there were hardly any delays but I'd still had enough of it. So how you poor buggers manage it in these circumstances simply amazes me. Respect!

I did the West worthing one as well
For a couple of years and decided enough is enough when they announced one morning ‘the 06:50
From Littlehampton to London Bridge has been cancelled as the driver has had a row with his wife’ sort of love the honesty of it, but the commuters did not see the funny side of it. I am
Now an occasional user of Southernrail and can say that at least 75% of the time they are late, cancelled or some other issue. Is there a worse company in the Uk for service ?


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[Guinness Boy]

see your Apple iPhone? very well constructed and made in China. along with an awful lot of good quality kit. they make tat too of course, but then so do the UK, European, US factories. the difference is in QA process applied and thats down to the company selling a product, not where it comes from. a blanket "chinese stuff is cheap rubbish" is prejudiced nonsense.

i dont rule out the parts, but there's the installation and maintenance to consider. or something of the wrong specification. or that it just broke and there's no one to blame but entropy.

It's going a bit off topic but iPhones made under contract to Apple and sheet metal supplied at a cheap price are two very different things. Thanks for your patronising tone but I lived in Taiwan for three years and visitied Hong Kong and the mainland numerous times. Taiwan now produces very decent tech cheaply and there are several excellent science sites (one of them bizarely full of Irish who we used to play football against). That doesn't mean that it doesn't produce crap as well, nor that the local gangs and government control much of the less-than-kosher end of the supply. They do. I've seen it. Same goes for the mainland only times about four.

You know all those kids who learned Mandarin because it was the "language of the future"? Know why they're not millionairres? It's because it's notoriously difficult for a Westerner to control mainland businesses. The effort required needs a company of Apple's reputation and size. Not Chris Grayling and the procurement guys at NR ordering some parts. Like I say, unless you've personally inspected the sites you don't know.

From my own personal view then Chinese is sub standard.

I'm a sheet metal worker. My company lost a large contract to China. Nearly sent us under. 4 months later the clients gave it back to us. At an increased cost to what they were originally paying. China couldn't match the quality. Despite it being to "spec" it just wasn't.

I can also say the same about some sheet metal suppliers. It's cheaper granted. But it is crap for folding. They can't maintain a uniform thickness over a sheet yet alone a batch. And it makes my life bloody difficult. European sourced sheet steel is generally <10% under quoted. So we adjust our developments to suit. China can be anything up to 12% under.

That 2% makes a lot of difference when trying to maintain 0.1mm tolerance during folding.

In saying this there was a lot of kerfuffle when the steel plant shut down in Wales. Not strictly Chinese but Tata made crap sheet. That's why the place folded.

Don't be silly. [MENTION=599]beorhthelm[/MENTION] knows best. He always does

 

[beorhthelm]

Thanks for your patronising tone...:

didnt mean to be patronising, just attempting to dispell the apparent prejudice from the original posting. i dont know why factory inspections are needed to acknowledge quality of output, but there we are.

 

[Weststander]

Bugger. Looks ok this morning, Was hoping for an extra wfh today

That reminds me of kids (and their kind parents) hoping that school's closed for snow.

 

[Guinness Boy]

didnt mean to be patronising, just attempting to dispell the apparent prejudice from the original posting. i dont know why factory inspections are needed to acknowledge quality of output, but there we are.

Come back to me on prejudice when you can order several beers, a decent meal and a taxi home in Mandarin,

 

[Perry Milkins]

Come back to me on prejudice when you can order several beers, a decent meal and a taxi home in Mandarin,

I did that last weekend. Got some strange looks from the landlord at the Crown, the waiter at the Raj Temple and last of all Ernie the cabbie!

 

[Beach Hut]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-44799659

The arrogance of a GTR Senior Manager defies belief

 

[beorhthelm]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-44799659

The arrogance of a GTR Senior Manager defies belief

and salt in the wound is he wouldnt have paid for first class.

 

[Beach Hut]

and salt in the wound is he wouldnt have paid for first class.

Not strictly true as it is probably a perk taxed as a benefit in kind

 

[Ernest]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-44799659

The arrogance of a GTR Senior Manager defies belief

All FIRST class passes should be ABOLISHED for any staff or ex staff

 

[Beach Hut]

All FIRST class passes should be ABOLISHED for any staff or ex staff

Really, you do amuse me dear boy

 

[Simgull]

In one picture, sums up the arrogance of GTR’s leadership and the contempt they have for their ‘customers’.

 

[oneillco]

Commuting was shit under labour too. And Tory before that.

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As a commuter for 30 years I can tell you without a shadow of doubt that commuting to and from London has never been this bad before...

 

[Dave the OAP]

I see it's all fun and games today too.

 

[Beach Hut]

I see it's all fun and games today too.

https://www.southernrailway.com/tra...229330000#INC381644C3254240F780B6A9E8DE3E64A8

Another major signal failure

 

[Dirk Lehmann's Python]

https://www.southernrailway.com/tra...229330000#INC381644C3254240F780B6A9E8DE3E64A8

Another major signal failure

Weather still nice, lots of hangovers post football...very convenient...

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[theboybilly]

All FIRST class passes should be ABOLISHED for any staff or ex staff

Absolutely, 90% of managers are no more than supervisors and giving them 1st Class travel is a cheap way of boosting their T&Cs. I bet none of these give up their seats on packed trains

 

[WATFORD zero]

Absolutely, 90% of managers are no more than supervisors and giving them 1st Class travel is a cheap way of boosting their T&Cs. I bet none of these give up their seats on packed trains

Easy [MENTION=38]Beach Hut[/MENTION], he's not worth it